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Human advancement was due to feminisation of the species.

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Garlick · 21/06/2015 17:21

Thought you might like this! From the introduction:-

Humans only emerged from the caveman era once females realised the toughest males didn't always make the best partners. Why go for brute force when you could instead choose a clever tool-maker with better social skills? This preference for more intelligent or creative males meant testosterone levels dropped and modern humans evolved to become slimmer and more easier to live with.

theconversation.com/early-humans-had-to-become-more-feminine-before-they-could-dominate-the-planet-42952

I'm no anthropologist but it seems to make sense.

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Branleuse · 21/06/2015 18:07

thats really interesting

scallopsrgreat · 21/06/2015 18:01

No I haven't MarchLikeAnAnt, thank you, I'll get it for Kindle - looks interesting.

scallopsrgreat · 21/06/2015 17:59

Garlick where did that introduction come from because it doesn't seem to be in the article?

MarchLikeAnAnt · 21/06/2015 17:58

Have you read 'The decent of woman' by Elaine Morgan? I think you might like it.

Anniegetyourgun · 21/06/2015 17:56

There's more to hunting than hitting things over the head with main force, though. Let's face it, the World's Strongest Man would have a job wrestling a rhino into submission, and is a good bit smaller than youraverage mammoth. Cunning and co-operation are more effective. Let's not even start pointing out that it may not have been all men doing the hunting and women doing the gathering; men are actually capable of gathering too, if the rumours are to be believed, and I'm sure most women could have dug a perfectly serviceable trap. As we know, lions are larger and more powerful than lionesses, but not better hunters.

TheWanderingUterus · 21/06/2015 17:52

It's not the only choice Karbon.

www.theguardian.com/society/2005/jun/15/childrensservices.familyandrelationships

tribpot · 21/06/2015 17:51

Surely the introduction doesn't say "more easier" - is this self-published?!

Given many technological advances have been made through warfare, I'm not sure tool making = less propensity for violence.

karbonfootprint · 21/06/2015 17:43

It doesn't make a lot of sense. The only choice in those days, and in hunter gatherer societies today, was to go for the best hunter, to provide for your children. No amount of tool making and social skills would have compensated for a lack of strength and courage in hunting.

scallopsrgreat · 21/06/2015 17:41

That is really interesting, thanks Garlick.

I haven't got time to comment properly at the moment (supposed to be doing a job application but procrastinating as usual!) but I will comment on the use of the word "feminisation". I find it jarring even though I know why they have used it (primarily to talk about the lowering of testosterone levels and the consequential lowering of reactive violence) but they've also paired it up with 'self-domestication'. Again I know why, but...

It's an interesting take on it all though and they mention the re-emergence of inequality between sexes at the start of the agricultural period (although when sexual inequality occurred I think is still up for debate tbh).

It all still feels a bit 'man writing/imposing his view of history on us' again though. But I am happy to be persuaded otherwise by more experienced anthropologists. I think we have a couple around.