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Jurassic World. Sexist? (spoilers)

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PiperAndAlex · 20/06/2015 19:45

I haven't seen the movie but I want to. I've seen quite a lot of reports that it is sexist.

The lead (Claire?) is portrayed as quite a cold stiff career woman who has no maternal instincts.

She saves her nephews life by shooting a dinosaur yet they only want to stay with her because they feel safe with her boyfriend.

She wears her heels throughout the movie.

Also the most gruesome death was that of a female - yet she didn't actually do anything to deserve that death.

If you look back at Jurassic Park with Ellie she was volunteered to turn the power on when John Hammond says it really should be him because hes a man, she just rolls her eyes.

And that was 20 years ago! Seems like this film is a step back.

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VampireSparkles · 21/06/2015 21:19

I didn't notice the product placements. Was too busy looking for reptiles. Maybe it will have a subliminal effect on me.

Are you going to buy a Mercedes tomorrow?

Lweji · 21/06/2015 20:51

I didn't notice the product placements. Was too busy looking for reptiles. Maybe it will have a subliminal effect on me.

WallyBantersJunkBox · 21/06/2015 20:45

I was too annoyed with the consistent brand/product placement to notice to be honest. Blush

I'm surprised the Veloceraptors weren't running around in Nike Trainers...

The heels did annoy me but as someone with a high instep I'd have been better with than without.

Lweji · 21/06/2015 20:43

My DS is also 10 and he was fine too. There's not a lot of blood or guts spilling.

Grin at "too old for this shit"

It was 20 years ago. I wonder how long a T. rex would last for. Hmm And a looooong time to be single. Wink

I quite liked the way they related this to the first movie. Down to the Velociraptor's head above the plants looking at the possible prey (it ended differently, though).

Also: Angry that the velociraptors still don't have feathers.

almondcakes · 21/06/2015 20:40

My favourite bit was when the giant air beasts attacked and one of the resort visitors paused to pick up two cocktails off a table, to take with him as he ran.

That would have been my sister in such a situation.

Lweji · 21/06/2015 20:37

I know. Grin
But I'm prepared to accept the initial premise that it's possible to resurrect dinosaurs (and other extinct reptiles).

LassUnparalleled · 21/06/2015 20:28

My main issue is the unbelievability factor. There is no way anyone could outrun a T. rex for long, let alone in heels. And the T. rex simply walking away? Yeah, sure.

Yes, aside from that it's completely believable ! (sorry that was sarcasm )

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 21/06/2015 19:12

It's actually not that bad - it's tense & although u know the script with these films, you'll still get a few jumps etc. my DD is ten & loved it, as did her 9 yr old friend.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 21/06/2015 19:10

Grin I think we should try & fill in the gaps of the conversation between T. rex (Wink lweji) & the raptor.

T. rex - 'I'm knackered - that big fecker nearly had me there. As much as I'd love a bite to eat, they're all yours blue'

Blue - ...

Grin
girliefriend · 21/06/2015 19:10

Umm slightly off topic but was thinking of taking my 9yo dd to see this tomos, how scary/ gruesome is it?!!

VampireSparkles · 21/06/2015 19:03

Apparently it's the same T rex from the first film. She still has the scars from her raptor fight at the end of the first film.

Maybe that's why she just walks away?? Since she's getting too old for all this shit now haha

VampireSparkles · 21/06/2015 19:01

In fairness Jurassic Park III was a terrible film all round, that wasn't even the least plausible bit of it!

I think the highlight for me was Dr Grants dream and the raptor shouting Alan GrinGrin

WixingMords I feel for you, having to hear her shout ERIC!!!!!!!!!!! more than once is torturous.

Lweji · 21/06/2015 18:55

I have just watched it and didn't think it was that bad. Definitely not enough women, but considering the main female character was supposed to be a corporate bitch she did well in saving people (with the T. rex and rescuing the bf from a pterosaurus).

My main issue is the unbelievability factor. There is no way anyone could outrun a T. rex for long, let alone in heels. And the T. rex simply walking away? Yeah, sure.

And why do people keep walking along paths and in the open when there are nasty dinos around? I'm looking at you, army guys.

The assistant was definitely eaten as she was being carried by the pterosaurus, which was swallowed by the large aquatic reptile.

PS - notice above the correct way of writing T. rex (yes, in italics, yes, rex in low case, no, no -)

WixingMords · 21/06/2015 18:20

My son is mad about Jurassic Park 3 (the spinosaurous being his favourite dinosaur) so I've seen it about 4874378 times. I can concur she is indeed the most annoying character ever.

tribpot · 21/06/2015 17:46

In fairness Jurassic Park III was a terrible film all round, that wasn't even the least plausible bit of it!

VampireSparkles · 21/06/2015 16:15

Lack of female characters is quite the norm for films isn't it? Too many and it's a 'chick flick'

Very true. But even the first you had -

Dr Grant
Dr Malcolm
John Hammond
The guy who says "clever girl" and get eaten by a raptor
The lawyer guy
Samuel L Jackson
Tim
The guy who stole the DNA (or whatever it was)

And then for the females -

Dr Sattler and Lex

Hmm

At least they were both good characters. Sattler was kind of badass and Lex saved the day by being a computer genius.

The mum in the third film though, one of the most annoying characters ever! I know she was trying to find her lost child but seriously who runs through the jungle full of dinosaurs shouting?? Confused

tribpot · 21/06/2015 12:30

Thought this might be a good moment to throw in about women's roles in Hollywood.

scallopsrgreat · 21/06/2015 12:05

Yes, overall there are twice as many parts for men in films.

WixingMords · 21/06/2015 11:53

Lack of female characters is quite the norm for films isn't it? Too many and it's a 'chick flick'

PiperAndAlex · 21/06/2015 10:32

The product placement was badly done and made you feel like you were watching a Mercedes advert

I read somewhere this was done on purpose, to show how commercial the park is.

I was surprised that the assistant is apparently the only female character to be shown killed by a dinosaur in all 4 films.

I wasn't. When you think about it there are hardly any women in all 4 films.

First film there is Ellie and Lex.
Second film Julianne Moore and Malcolms(?) daughter.
Third film the mother

So five women, unless I'm missing any?

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WixingMords · 21/06/2015 10:31

There's a lot less human deaths in the other films. But yes none of them are female now I think of it.

spence82 · 21/06/2015 10:13

I was surprised that the assistant is apparently the only female character to be shown killed by a dinosaur in all 4 films.

LassUnparalleled · 21/06/2015 09:35

The product placement was badly done and made you feel like you were watching a Mercedes advert

I didn't notice any product placement.

AliceAnneB · 21/06/2015 00:16

The heels were ridiculous. The product placement was badly done and made you feel like you were watching a Mercedes advert. The divorce story line sucked. The assistant definitely got eaten by the crocowhale thing.

I reckon the next film will be water based and the crocowhale thing will be the main dinosaur.

YonicScrewdriver · 20/06/2015 23:48

I haven't seen it but thanks for starting the thread, OP.

Bear in mind it'll pop up in active so not everyone responding will even know which section it's in.