Am I right thinking this is sexist?

i know of families that have a girls name handed down, there is a 'Theresa' in every generation, not necessarily daughter to a Theresa though.

I know plenty of women who share a first or middle name with their mother.

I know a family where all 4 daughters have their mother's middle name as their middle name. And the son? Married a girl with that middle name. True story! (None of the grandaughters have the name!)

I know a woman who is an honest to goodness Mom's Name, jr. She was born in the 1940s, her mother didnt change her surname , and gave her daughter the exact same name, with the Jr. added on the birth certificate, not just used as a social clarifier.

i think giving your son his father's same complete name, jr, is complete laziness. i also associate it with very young and unstable marriages, seems like a common attempted latching mechanism. Or associate it with posh types, which in the US even use III, and IV to designate grandsons and great grandsons with the same name too.

My brother is the 10th generation of our family with the exact same name as his father. This happens in all branches of my dad's family, so one branch of the family are "old Bill", "young Bill", "wee Bill" and "littlest Bill", another are "big John", "little John", etc.

It is very sexist to object to the same tradition being used for boys AND girls. Nobody in my family objected to my parents giving me my mum's middle name, or to her mum giving her the same middle name. My sister has the same middle name as my grandma (dad's mum), my dd1 has my first name as her middle name, and dd2 has my middle name as her middle name (which is also my mum's middle name, and dp's mum's first name, so everybody's thrilled at being honoured)

We have three people in my family with the same first name (two of them also share a surname). We have two people with the same first, middle and surnames, whereas another has two different first names.

I think anyone opting to use anyone else's name as a middle name would be met with tears of relief

That makes sense Seneca!

No idea how they handle the lunch issues.

Nicknames. For example, Vice-President Biden's late son, who was III, was called Beau.

Although in the South where I am from, something like Little Bill would not be unknown, and still called that even though as an adult he might be a foot taller than Big Bill.

Ridiculously sexist. I have my mum's name as my middle name, and my sister's middle name is our aunt's name. It's never crossed my mind as weird.

"Natural" as a justification is a retreat into meaningless argument when it comes to this kind of thing. Getting your period or having a baby are "natural". Naming your baby is about choice balanced with tradition and social mores. Nothing cultural is immutable.

I was thinking it would be unlikely that it would be the same first name as then when you yell "angela what do you want for lunch" the various angela's wouldn't know if it was them!

Then I just remembered in the usa don't they do it eg William P Blogspot the fourth, and that? No idea how they handle the lunch issues. So maybe it is the first name after all. That's not how I read it though, she does say middle name.

lol

I'm waiting for confirmation before getting my gavel out

Speaking of the Royal Family, the Queen has her mother's name. And Princess Anne's second name is Elizabeth. And Zara's second name is Anne.

Yup, sexist. And wanky.

No I read it as

Baby: Charlotte Joanna
Mum: Joanna Elizabeth
Gran: Elizabeth Mary
Great gran: Mary Alice
etc

This is how we do it in our family and what I took from "My sister has followed our family tradition and given her son his father's name as a middle name "

The following bit I can see would be confusing but as she's talking about the "same tradition" I think it's just wording rather than anything else.

OP may confirm herself of course

wait - I'm confused is this what is happening about names?
is it:

Nephew gets Dad's middle name as first name? e.g Dad is Tom John and Son is John Adam?

Daughter get's Mums first name as a first name? eg, both called Sarah?

It's sexist and illogical.

I'm not sure sexist is the right word. They are utterly wrong, bonkers, unpleasant and so far from what is just a normal, standard western convention which should not give any one pause it almost needs a new word.

Oh by the way you and DH should go for it if you have a girl, like I say, it's a tradition in at least one family I know about and is really nice and also takes a bit of effort out of naming the first one

If your first name also happens to be the first name of your MIL then it's 2 birds with one stone and everyone's a winner!

We do this with the girls (the first ones anyway) in our family. It's a way of having a little continuity down the female line while obviously the big continuity of the surname has traditionally gone to the men.

It goes back 6 generations that I know about, and everyone I have told has looked surprised and then said how lovely, what a great idea. I can't imagine DD1 will be mortified at having my name as a middle name, why would she

Clearly OP this family are sexist, and what they are choosing to be sexist about, to me and I imagine most people I know, it would make no sense. Like, most sexist stuff you can see in the culture where / why people might think or do something, even if you think it's wrong. This is just weird.

Although just seen it's a different country so maybe would make more sense in that country.

Natural in what sense, because names get handed down from fathers already? Whereas a woman's name is completely disposable? What did they make of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge giving their new daughter Diana's name? Distasteful and vain, or a lovely way to celebrate the life of a woman who Prince William adored?

Ludicrously sexist!

Thank goodness the wedding certificates issue has been changed, thanks to the campaigner nameequality.

Yes it does sound sexist.

Ooh phone had a mini-seizure then!

Natural? Eh?

It's baffling to me how people justify these views sometimes. Can they not hear what they're saying?