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Institutional Sexism : The Honours list

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TalkinPeace · 13/06/2015 22:15

Good evening,
this is my first ever thread on this board but I suspect the people on here might "get" the issue rather better than the fluffy boards.

Here is the official Honours list
www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/434869/Queens_birthday_honours_list_2015.pdf

Why is the marital status of all of the women shown, but none of the men?
Why do the women who work under their birth names have to have their husband's names listed
Hilary Mantel was listed under her husband's name FWIW

Isn't it about time that the protocol for listing names stopped looking at ladies' wedding rings?

I have complained to Buck House, but I am just a lone voice.
Hopefully the folks on this board will be able to kick something into action in time for New Year

I have no underlying problem with the Honours system BTW, it has its uses, but it need not be sexist

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LassUnparalleled · 13/06/2015 23:36

Why is the marital status of all of the women shown, but none of the men?

But it isn't . it's only those who are married. You don't know what the Mss, Drs and Profs or for that matter the Ladys.

If I were to get one (not likely) It would name me as Ms. That doesn't tell you whether I'm married or not. I assume they can't force you to disclose whether you are.

If anything I think it looks odd that everyone gets a courtesy title except men who don't have a higher academic qualification (or aren't medics) or a noble title.

Egosumquisum · 13/06/2015 23:21

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Devora · 13/06/2015 23:16

I expect people will say that it is so the women's personal and professional contacts will all be able to recognise and congratulate them.

Another reason for NOT changing your name, I reckon.

Egosumquisum · 13/06/2015 23:01

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TalkinPeace · 13/06/2015 22:39

How many of the men have shown their marital status?

Buck House told me they do it because they always have.

I do not consider that to be a good enough reason.

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caroldecker · 13/06/2015 22:36

there are a lot of Ms on there, so maybe the choice of the recipient. 216 Ms, 324 Mrs

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TalkinPeace · 13/06/2015 22:35

Parietal
Page 8 : DBE to Frances Cairncross but her husband gets a mention
Page 17 : A top midwife has it highlighted that her husband has a different name

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Devora · 13/06/2015 22:29

I completely agree. On the plus side, though, great to see Laura Bates and Caroline Criado-Perez in there.

Parietal · 13/06/2015 22:26

It is odd that the title 'Mr' is never used, but Miss, Mrs, Dr, and Prof are all used.

can you give examples of women listed under their husbands name?