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Places where you would expect to see women represented/involved/visible and yet there are none .....

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BeCool · 02/06/2015 13:39

the relaunch/anniversary special of TGIF is a manfest, though I'm sure they will squeeze a woman in a bikini in at some point:
www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-05-31/blur-and-liam-gallagher-join-chris-evans-for-tfi-friday-special

On the London Marathon 2015 runners medal there are 2 runners depicted - both men. It's like women don't run marathons, raise millions for charity while doing so and who the heck is Paula Radcliffe?:

www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/gweneral-view-of-the-medals-during-the-virgin-money-london-news-photo/471229290

These examples are just 2 I've come across in normal daily life in the last week.

Grrrrr!

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OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 03/06/2015 15:41

I wouldn't recommend googling the percentage of Jewish MPs - there are some rather nasty anti-Semitic websites out there with interesting theories...

But, Jewish people are overrepresented in parliament and in Lords, particularly when talking cultural Jews rather than religious Jews, Muslims are proportionately represented - slightly more so in parliament, slightly less so in Lords.

Women are significantly under-represented in both Parliament and Lords - only 23% MPs compared to 51% of the population.

tabulahrasa · 03/06/2015 13:15

Yeah it was the fact that women's titles were not counted as 'real' ones that bothered me.

vesuvia · 03/06/2015 12:53

tabulahrasa, Yes, so many people went with the "77 year wait" hype, based on the assumption that "winning Wimbledon" obviously meant winning the men's singles. I suppose it made a good media story.

Andy Murray's win in 2013 was a great sporting achievement for him, but he wasn't even the first person in his own family to win Wimbledon when it's taken as winning a Wimbledon title.

After Fred Perry in 1936, Britain didn't have to wait 77 years for its next Wimbledon champion. Britain had to wait for only one year because Dorothy Round Little won the women's singles in 1937. The other British singles champions were Angela Mortimer (1961), Ann Jones (1969) and then Virginia Wade (1977).

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 03/06/2015 11:52

tabulahrasa yes that was rather depressing.

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 03/06/2015 11:52

link to show female representation in parliaments around the world

Interesting and comparison is appropriate - women make up around 50% of the population in most countries!

We are at no 58 in the world with 23%. Rwanda and Bolivia are the only 2 countries with more than 50% women. All other countries in the world have less than 50%.

tabulahrasa · 03/06/2015 11:51

That one stuck with me...

Places where you would expect to see women represented/involved/visible and yet there are none .....
WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 03/06/2015 11:46

How many Jewish and Muslim people are there in parliament, and how does this compare to the % in the population?

I would agree that the makeup of our parliament should reflect our society, in terms of sex, sexuality, religion (and none!), disability and so on and so forth. I mean you're never going to get it exact but at the moment it is way off.

Representation seems to be more representative of the people at local level maybe. There are lots of female / non white etc council members around here. It seems to drop off the higher up the "food chain" you go.

famousfivesfanny · 03/06/2015 11:23

Why are there so few Jews and Muslims in parliament? It's time we demanded quotas and affirmative action so Jews and Muslims can have as many seats in parliament as Christians.

nameChangeQueen · 02/06/2015 23:04

yes sarcastic - it's like she never existed.

Oh OK thanks. I don't always get sarcasm.
Sorry for interrupting.

GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt · 02/06/2015 22:04

Wobblystraddle - you're right. It's the presentation of half the population as a minority. This pisses me off too.

vesuvia · 02/06/2015 21:54

Mide7 wrote - "what's more 90's than blur and oasis?"

Mide7, I know you've acknowledged that the Spice Girls were also big in 90s, but I thought it was worth mentioning that the record sales of the Spice Girls are reported to be larger than the combined sales of Blur and Oasis.

Wobblystraddle · 02/06/2015 21:40

This isn't a case of no women at all, but DD got Guess Who out the other day. I haven't played it for about 26 years and instantly remembered that there were about 20 men and about 5 women. I assumed times have changed - eight women this time, I think. Wtaf is that about - as if men are default and women 'other'. Really pissed me off

almondcakes · 02/06/2015 21:06

There is/was a woman in Pulp, Mide.

BeCool · 02/06/2015 20:46

I guess it is because Chris Evans is that kind of guy! Still we are 20 years on - come on!! From the press releases for the show it's like women just didn't exist in the 90's.

As for Paula Radcliffe she is an amazing athlete. And I am full of admiration for anyone who can finish the London marathon. So why only men on the medals?

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lotsgoingon · 02/06/2015 19:50

is there? Never noticed. That's my point, really. TDY was a really big thing, round here, but it's an exclusively male race, when surely it doesn't need to be?

Mide7 · 02/06/2015 19:43

Lotsgoingon there is a woman's tour of France isn't there?

Definitely a female tour of Britain

dominogocatgo · 02/06/2015 19:36

Paula Radcliffe did a poo during the marathon, not a wee !

paxtecum · 02/06/2015 19:33

Paula Radcliffe did a poo in public not a wee, though I suppose she probably did both.

lotsgoingon · 02/06/2015 19:13

Cycling - Tour de France/ Grand Depart/Tour of Yorkshire.

Why, just why?!

Don't say that the women can't cover the distances, that's just not true.

Don't say that they had that sprint competition in York or somewhere, as if that was the same thing.

Someone should challenge the ICC. I don't even like cycling, yet it enrages me; not like it would be difficult to include women/ run two races on same course.

Mide7 · 02/06/2015 19:04

Ok ok I was wrong! Grin

I still think if you had to pick some britpop artists most people would pick oasis, blur and pulp over the bands mentioned above. Even tho the bands mentioned above were brilliant!

YonicScrewdriver · 02/06/2015 19:02

Yes, they were, Mide.

TheLily1957 · 02/06/2015 18:55

Lots of female artists of that time with their own bands Shirley Mason Garbage Justine Freshman Elastica Louise Wener Sleeper Cerys Mathews Catatonia

Mide7 · 02/06/2015 18:52

Gilbert yeah true but they were exactly mainstream at the time were they? To be honest I wasn't very old at the time and I can't remember what I did yesterday.

Rosa- sorry I meant "britpop" not 90's in general

YonicScrewdriver · 02/06/2015 18:51

At least Aisten will be back soon, thank you CCP

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23424289

GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt · 02/06/2015 18:48

Banknotes. As of next year there'll be no women of achievement on the UK banknotes.

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