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Verso Books and "the problem with TERFs"

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ArcheryAnnie · 31/05/2015 20:17

Verso Books, who describe themselves as a "radical" publisher, have been doing the very boring, conservative and unradical thing of dissing second-wave feminists on their twitter account.

Their social media manager has been tweeting selective quotes from Judith Butler, insulting the second-wave feminists WHO THEY PUBLISH AND THUS MAKE MONEY FROM as "transphobic" and casually referring to "the problem with TERFs".

Dissing feminists. But it's totes OK, as they are older feminists! How very radical. Not.

@VersoBooks, if you can be bothered scrolling through all the other rubbish they are currently tweeting.

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LassUnparalleled · 01/06/2015 12:57

^"I reject totally the characterization of a transwoman as a mutilated man. First, that formulation presumes that men born into that sex assignment are not mutilated "
What is this mean? Especially the bit in bold?

PuffinsAreFictitious · 01/06/2015 08:19

Is it like saying that you don't believe in fairies?

Quick, everyone clap and all shall be well.

Heckler · 01/06/2015 00:40

What the countless said.

I am completely fucked off with claims of violence for stuff like, oh... Saying a penis is male.

Badonna · 01/06/2015 00:39

That is, indeed, a fabulous line. Thanks for sharing it.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 31/05/2015 22:04

There is a fabulous line in one of the comments, though - 'theoretical violence, the battle cry of all fascists who throw their political opponents into jail'. I have always rolled my eyes at the claim that nonviolent radfems are committing actual violence by disagreeing with trans ideology and that makes the point well.

LassUnparalleled · 31/05/2015 21:53

There is an interview with her here. I gave up fairly quickly.

www.versobooks.com/blogs/2009-judith-butler-on-gender-and-the-trans-experience

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 31/05/2015 21:48

Meh, found it. Because of course using a word that is used almost exclusively to denigrate women and frequently to threaten violence is just really really radical.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 31/05/2015 21:46

Thanks, got them now! I can't find the one where they use the word TERFs - is it too much to hope that they've decided misogynist hate speech will make them look very unradical indeed, or did I just scroll too quickly?!

ArcheryAnnie · 31/05/2015 21:37

I don't have time to find the original posts, but I'd taken a screencap of one exchange in case it was deleted. Basically their argument is that they should continue profiting off the work of women while insulting them selling these texts in order to facilitate their critique.

Am totally bored of "radicals" who think it is radical to hate women, and to suck up to others who also hate women.

Verso Books and "the problem with TERFs"
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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 31/05/2015 21:26

Can you link to the quotes? I couldn't find them.