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Men blaming our vaginas for things

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FancyFeast42 · 30/05/2015 19:36

I don't know about y'all, but this gets on my last nerve. If they want to insult us based on our sex, why do they have to get so personal and vulgar about it? Recently I heard some guys talking about their loved ones and saying they'd trust their friends first because "you can't trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die".

The ignorance and these sexist remarks are just too much

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BreakingDad77 · 02/06/2015 12:06

That comment is also framed as a 'joke' by the every strange Mr Garrison in South Park.

UptoapointLordCopper · 01/06/2015 21:08

Oops. Double post. I like some women, I like some men. Some men and some women drive me up the wall. In fact lots of people seem to drive me up the wall these days ...

DoctorTwo · 01/06/2015 20:57

Phew, thanks LordC, I honestly thought I'd inadvertently caused offence. Again. I happen to like women. After all, one of them is the mother of our children and is fucking amazing at being her.

UptoapointLordCopper · 01/06/2015 20:18

DoctorTwo I meant the "thing" in "you can't trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die".

UptoapointLordCopper · 01/06/2015 20:18

DoctorTwo I meant the "thing" in "you can't trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die".

DoctorTwo · 01/06/2015 19:53

Bloody hell Kniddy, I bet you still got your bonus though Angry

Sorry LordC, the 'things' I was referring to were random acts, not vaginas. Apols for any confusion. Blush

uglyswan · 01/06/2015 00:37

Yops, I know we've disagreed on this before, but if you think something sounds sexist or racist or whatever, you have a perfect right to say so. Even if it's a woman spouting some misogynist bullcrap and you're a man. Context only goes so far. You don't have to police random conversations, but if someone says something that is offensive to you, Yops, then why shouldn't you stand up for your own personal, deeply held principles? I know lot of people from an ethnic minority here and some of them do talk a lot of unconsidered shit about their own communities and it's perfectly ok to say, "That sounded really racist". No one has ever come back at me with a "How dare you, as a white person, tell me I'm being racist?" A lot of this stuff is just thoughtless and engrained and, for the most part, people won't mind having that pointed out to them in a polite and restrained I-know-you-didn't-really-mean-that fashion (I'm excepting all the hard-core bigots out there, of course, feel free to swear creatively at them).

Anniegetyourgun · 31/05/2015 21:15

Slightly more poetic than (but just as offensive as) the the key/lock analogy (stop after a couple of minutes if you don't want the song after it):

YonicScrewdriver · 31/05/2015 20:03

Vagina is nearly an anagram of "a ving". Which sounds a bit like "a thing". QED, hmmm?

UptoapointLordCopper · 31/05/2015 19:47

Italics fail. Blame my vagina.

UptoapointLordCopper · 31/05/2015 19:47

Anything? Anything?? Things, are they?

kickassangel · 31/05/2015 18:01

The floods in Michigan are my fault. I have a hormonally induced migraine today so spent the morning sleeping, and asked DH to do the laundry and hang it out.

See, it's all true. Periods > migraine > lazy woman > man does laundry > God punishes entire Mid West of America rather than see some poor man hanging out the laundry.

However, sleep and meds have done their job. I am now waiting for the next load of laundry to finish and I will sort out getting it dried. Now that me and my vagina are out of bed, we are able to resume our duties, and the rain is easing up, almost over. So, double proof that my vagina caused flooding.

TheVermiciousKnid · 31/05/2015 16:57

like the crashing of the financial system in 2008

Sorry, I think that was me. Blush I made my poor husband do the housework. :(

DoctorTwo · 31/05/2015 16:35

I really hoped it would be random things, like the crashing of the financial system in 2008, or for the drought in California. Slightly disappointed now...

Yops · 31/05/2015 16:22

If you trust your friends ahead of your wife/partner, you've made a pretty poor choice in my opinion. But this 'like' reminds me of a greeting card joke I saw once. The front said 'Why did God invent men?'. Inside it said 'Because vibrators can't mow the lawn.' I doubt anyone coming out with either statement truly believes it to be true.

But in a wider context, what should we do about humour that we find offensive? How do we control it? Should we? I've heard Asian and black comedians say stuff about their own community that would in other circumstances be considered racist. I've heard women make jokes about other women that are not to everyone's taste. What should we do - anything?

Trills · 31/05/2015 11:51

"you can't trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die"

= I fear and mistrust women and I cannot articulate why

Perhas because they've been brought up to believe that "being a man" requires that they be stronger and cleverer and have more power and be more listened-to than women, and the women they are around don't seem to have got the memo.

bigbuttons · 31/05/2015 11:15

fair enough yonic I'll make sure to keep an open mind Smile

YonicScrewdriver · 31/05/2015 11:08

Lass, I agree the OP doesn't have much history.

Bigbuttons, I'd say the pub is the most typical FWR conversation - it's certainly the longest running. There's a pretty nasty thread on Chat right now about an OP whose neighbour is coming on to her - I'm not judging Chat by that one thread though, and I hope you don't judge FWR by one thread either.

LassUnparalleled · 31/05/2015 10:55

This might get deleted as troll hunting but whilst Bigbuttons is being a little over dramatic she has been posting regularly for years; unlike the OP who has 3 posts, 2 of them on this thread.

For what it's worth buttons I think it's a very odd opening post and I am sceptical about it being genuine.

bigbuttons · 31/05/2015 10:53

I wish it had been a shock though. That's the point. It was as I thought it would be, sadly.
yeah, I'm ok, will make it through the day.

shaska · 31/05/2015 10:47

Will you be ok bigbuttons? Chuck a croissant in the oven and have a cup of tea or something maybe, often helps me get over unpleasant shocks.

bigbuttons · 31/05/2015 10:30

Yonic, it is unfortunate that after some considerable time avoiding these boards, I decided, on the off chance to open this thread.
Bad luck perhaps? A rogue thread? Or a typical Fem board convo?

LassUnparalleled · 31/05/2015 10:10

Yonic I have reported it.

YonicScrewdriver · 31/05/2015 09:12

Do you dislike all the other active threads on FWR as well, bigbuttons? It seems a bit unfair to judge by just one Smile

bigbuttons · 31/05/2015 09:03

Oh dear, this conversation is why I have avoided MN feminist boards for ages. Thought I'd dip back in today, and there is still the same nasty stuff going on.
Op I find the wording of your Op unpleasant. I don't see why you can't be challenged on it.