I'm not normally one for video games, but...

Less and less for me. Tired of being told I'm a fucking horrible bitch by people I have no respect for. Plus, I now have an allotment!

I must say I've been playing less lately; all the garrison maintenance felt like a full-time job, with the important distinction that I was paying them instead of the other way round. Re being booted from groups for lack of penis: the answer is to play a male toon, then they don't even ask. Small-mindedness can have its advantages.

Now MN is beginning to feel like a full-time job as well...

It's sad how awful wow got just before I stopped playing it. Some really vicious sexist twattery going on. Along the lines of "oh, you're a girl, you won't be any good at killing X end boss, so we're going to boot you from the group".

Got dull, so DH and I stopped playing.

There were plenty of women playing wow when I was Annie, possibly not 50/50, but not far from it, I loved my time there, didn't experience much misogyny apart from having to listen to random European teenage boy banter in pugs .

Is it egomaniacal of me to wonder if my encouragement here was partially responsible for the current Vergina situation?

If so- well done, kiddo. That's the spirit!

and shaska

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Personally I have a soft spot for World of Warcraft. Every class/race combination is available in male or female and there's no difference in abilities between the sexes (although some of the armour is ridiculously sexed-up - paladins in plate bikinis anyone? - still, you can transmogrify its appearance into less revealing sets). There are different ways the game can be played, although obviously mostly based around fighting/killing stuff (there's a clue in the name) you can play a more pacifistic role or concentrate on the less violent quests and mini-games if that is your bent.

To return to "Hey Baby", the article says: How we convince young men that it is not "complimentary" or "flattering" to yell sexual requests at women from moving vehicles is not as easy as one might think. I think the main problem is that many of them don't actually give a shit whether it's complimentary or flattering. They just say you're supposed to believe it is when they're pulled up on it.

"Hysterical rage filled trolling of feminists is kind of a first world thing to be into as well you know."

"Aim higher! Invent new forms! Be the troll you want to see in the world! Seriously"

Oh man. Look, honestly I just had a little think about you, getting up to post this stuff here, trying (and sorry, failing) to mess with a bunch of random women (and men).

The people here get trolled all the time and you're not going to be able to upset them just by throwing tired cliches around.

There is a grand tradition of hilarious trolling, joyful trolling, trolling that brings happiness to all who engage with it, that hate trolling does so much harm to. 'Trolling' now just means hate, and you're yet another on a boring bandwagon that we're all steadily becoming better at ignoring. You're just noise. And I bet you don't even hate women.

Aim higher! Invent new forms! Be the troll you want to see in the world! Seriously.

I know your trolling johenne but just to let you know as you quoted me. I'm male.

Why are you so upset?

"we've all had our problems"

And your biggest problem is you think life is hard all because you couldn't play as a female character in certain games in a video game franchise. What a sheltered little lamb you are.

Hysterical rage filled trolling of feminists is kind of a first world thing to be into as well you know.

Awww. Another butterfly broken on the wheel of life. We can all sympathise with that on here, we've all had our problems. And clearly you are obsessed with us, we recognise it's difficult to resist our natural attraction. We're all just so damned irresistable.

Dear god, you're dull.

First world problem: "A popular game franchise for the latest generation of video game consoles doesn't have the ratio of male to female characters I like in the earlier games!"

Another first world problem: "Other adult women choose to pose topless for newspapers!!! I don't like the choices they make! Change the laws to stop them making those choices!!"

Third world problems: hunger, disease, lack of access to suitable medical treatment, lack of access to clean water

Get my point yet? You lot are like a spoiled rich little girl who screams and stamp her feet and thinks she has life bad because daddy tells her she can't have any more than 3 horses and 2 ponies.

Back already?

There are plenty of feminists calling for GTA to be banned on the basis it's "violence against women". Even though over 99% of the characters the player kills during the storyline will be male.

"For insistence, call of duty being the biggest computer around currently, there are probably 12 different games into the franchise, it's only in the last two that you could choose to play as a female character in multiplayer"

First world problem.

Don't worry about dinner, he's a known troll who is so desperate to be here that he gets round his ban every couple of days in order to manage to post 10 or so insults and rape myths. Imagine how sad and pathetic his life must be to do that?

Not that you should feel sorry for him or anything, because he's a git.

No I meant like housework simulators and stuff

For insistence, call of duty being the biggest computer around currently, there are probably 12 different games into the franchise, it's only in the last two that you could choose to play as a female character in multiplayer

Agirlcalled I think the whole gaming thing is a bit of vicious circle. You don't get many female gamers because there aren't many games aimed towards women but you don't get many games because don't have many female players.

I've spent a lot of time in the past playing online and to be honest it's a pretty horrendous place regards of your gender.