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Help me with this discussion over Women's Equality Party

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Awellboiledicicle · 01/05/2015 16:03

I shared the news article yesterday about Sandi Toksvig on my fb wall. Lots of shares and positive comments from female friends. Then a comment from a male acquaintance. Basic summary being that it is discrimination to call it women, the name is off putting (possibly true) and then pointing out that men suffer discrimination too.

This was responded to with pointing out that men have superiority in our society etc. That doesn't mean all men are treated well.

A second male friend today saying that it is all wrong, pay gap is a myth, women have just as much opportunity, his wife pitches in that if you choose to have kids then you should expect to take a hit on your career and m en could give up work if they wanted to

Argh. I'm getting really riled, but I can't make them see. He points out high male suicide rate, homelessness.

I'm losing will to argue, but know he will think that means I think he is right

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uglyswan · 01/05/2015 17:04

Here's an interesting and amusingly written point-by-point breakdown of the "the pay-gap doesn't exist" "women choose to be paid less by having kids (on their own?)" argument.

GinAndSonic · 01/05/2015 16:19

Slug love it. Bookmarking everything.

slug · 01/05/2015 16:15

If they argue (and lord knows they probably will)

Send them here first. After they complain, send them here and finally, shut them down by answering all there comments by referring them here

BuffyNeverBreaks · 01/05/2015 16:15

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Awellboiledicicle · 01/05/2015 16:14

:D

They are both old acquaintances of Dh. I might delete them. Not quite the attitude I know!

I didn't expect people to not see the sexism and mistreatment of women.

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slug · 01/05/2015 16:09

"There mere fact that you believe such myths and spout such uninformed trollop is evidence enough for the need for a Women's Equality Party"