Feminist chat about tv shows

i have noticed lately that the sort of US shows I like do seem to have more and more women written as people and not all having to be super young. Still need to be immaculately groomed and slender obv but the men look like they need to make a pretty extreme effort too. Now if only they could stop making every storyline "attractive young women get raped and murdered and let's watch that closely shall we" then I'd be pretty content

Yes, I mainly watch the competition ones eg masterchef uk and other countries, come dine with me, my kitchen rules which dnt' aggravate too much.

"How to" shows I don't really watch and people like that west country sexist man I have to switch him off!! Hairy bikers are good I was saying to DH they manage to do the "blokey" thing without being sexist dickwads, I really like them actually.

That baking one is good too actually. DH likes baking and sue perkins is always good value.

On the US glossy whodunnit, Bones is pretty good, although I haven't been keeping up with it I used to watch it regularly. Did catch it the other day and some of the main women seem to have shrunk rather alarmingly but aside from that, the women in it are main character and 2 main supports, all "proper" characters written as people not as women if that makes any sense at all.

Agent Carter sounds like a similar premise to The Bletchley Circle, that always makes me gnash my teeth when these brilliant code-breakers are basically told to stop trying to solve crimes and concentrate on curling their hair and making tea.

The Blacklist is good, not many female characters, although the main character is. There is a bit of focus on her romantic relationships but this is more about massive plot points than just a 'ooh I wonder who she'll marry' kind of thing.

Oh shit how many of my brownies stype feminist badges do I have to hand in for just referring to myself as "girl"?

YY you have to just switch your brain off a bit and try to ignore it.

My problem is that I seem to really like US glossy crime detection type stuff BUT they are horrendous for the whole women are prey / lascivious treatment of scantily clad young female corpses / sexual violence which seems intended to titillate. One of my faves is called "women being horribly murdered" in this house but it is entertaining so, well.

I haven't tried GOT as I think I'd want to throw something if the levels of gratuitous female nudity talked about on here are anything to go by. Gratuitous nudity which is even handed I could probably get more on board with (Vikings?) but then 2 wrongs don't make a right etc but then at least it's sexist IYSWIM. + I'm more of a sci fi than a fantasy girl so not that interested anyway.

I watch a lot of cooking progs at the moment they are pretty harmless on the sexism front so that's good!

I loved Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. I'm not sure I saw the violence angle in the same way as you, although I felt the gay character was a bit stereotyped.

I'm enjoying Fringe at the moment - although it could possibly have done with more female characters (everyone has to play at least four versions of themselves, but outside the main four - two men, two women - a lot of the supporting characters are male). I also like Nashville, although too much emphasis on the love life of the main (female) character - she's running her own record label but a lot of air time is given over to who she might marry? Per-lease. But in general a lot of great characters, male and female.

I'll have to check Vikings out, I assume it was all testosterone and chopping people up with axes (er, like the real Vikings :) )

I have to say, I haven't watched Mad Men because I assumed it was basically a way of dressing up sexism to make it seem quaint (funny how we don't do this with racism? Not that we should, I hasten to add).