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What isn't a feminist issue?

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Jackieharris · 18/04/2015 17:23

Inspired a bit by another thread but it seems like a frequent occurence that non feminists say that feminists say everything is a feminist issue.

Since I 'took the red pill'/whatever I do see everything as a feminist issue so I'm perplexed at what these non-feminist issues are?

It seems to me that one of the first things you realise as a feminist is how all pervasive patriarchy is.

I don't think anything's exempt from it.

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SpinDoctorOfAethelred · 19/04/2015 16:37

I think I learned to use a computer, just so I'd never have to ask that paperclip anything ever again.

Perhaps it was a deliberate teaching technique? Grin

Lovecat · 19/04/2015 15:33

Candy Crush is totes a feminist issue - have you heard the pervy (male) voice that says "gooooood!" whenever you make a high score? That's the patriarchy talking, that is. :o

Also the Microsoft paperclip.

lucycant · 19/04/2015 13:12

Isn't the real issue that women are more likely to do the boring parts of looking after children, and men the fun parts?

BertieBotts · 19/04/2015 13:11

Ooh interesting Spin.

Settee vs Sofa. Well, it's the woman's domain to make sure that the home is presentable to visitors and displays one's class level appropriately. Whether one chooses to buy, or refer to, a settee or a sofa is clearly all tied into this class symbolism and the image thus projected. Hence, it's a feminist issue, because it's women who ultimately are responsible for how her home appears to visitors, which includes how the furniture is referred to. It's men's job to earn the money which pays for the settee/sofa, but he doesn't really get a say in which one is purchased.

For popular culture references, see: Hyacinth Bucket, Emily Gilmore.

SpinDoctorOfAethelred · 19/04/2015 12:54

I challenge you to find a feminist dimension to settee vs sofa!

Anniegetyourgun · 19/04/2015 12:19

Absolutely blankets vs duvets is a feminist issue. Who makes the beds? Who ends up wrestling the covers on and off? Muggins, of course.

Cava vs Prosecco may be more of a class issue, but there's very much an issue around sparkling light wines in general.

The fact that one might eat a Yorkie bar, or that one's DH takes the kids to the park, does not in itself render that a non-feminist issue. It's a clear trend that is being bucked. (Anyway, isn't taking the boys to the park a daddy thing, whilst mummy helps the girls stick glitter onto cards and make raspberry buns? Hmm)

UptoapointLordCopper · 19/04/2015 10:51

Missing socks - I (not DH) had a clear out of the airing cupboard and found one quite-small sock nestling in the corner inside a pillow case. That explains that one. I urge you all to examine the inside of your pillow cases (and probably duvet covers) if you suffer from the odd-sock syndrome.

YonicScrewdriver · 19/04/2015 06:38

Good point , spin,

AvaCrowder · 19/04/2015 02:26

My friend spent 1500 euros to win/complete Candy Crush.

SpinDoctorOfAethelred · 19/04/2015 01:51

The other issue is that games like Candy Crush seem symptomatic of unequal amounts of leisure time between the sexes. They are easy to break off from indefinitely (in order to deal with household responsibilities, etc) and return to for a five minute break.

Payment up-front games lend themselves to ne played for uninterrupted stretches of time. And seem to be generally played by the man in different-sex relationships. I wonder why that is...

SpinDoctorOfAethelred · 19/04/2015 01:37

Candy Crush is absolutely a feminist issue! It ties into GamerGate, but it was an issue before that.

Women tend not to play the "expensive" games requiring a one-off purchase of £35-odd. Instead, they tend to download technically free to download/very "cheap" games like Candy Crush, which, as far as I can see are designed to be addictive.

And then it's micro-transactions all the way. These games are designed with microtransactions in mind, to make money out of the sector of the market that is uncomfortable with spending 'proper amounts' of money on this form of entertainment. Extra lives/coins/levels//equipment and over the course of a year you can spend far, far, far more than the cost of any computer game. It's death by a thousand cuts.

reni1 · 19/04/2015 00:05

kids even

reni1 · 19/04/2015 00:05

Yes-kid's and play park. School runs, too.

reni1 · 19/04/2015 00:03

I'll find a non issue.

WineCowboy · 18/04/2015 23:59

Taking the kids to the play park? (Sometimes me, sometimes DH)

Sparklingbrook · 18/04/2015 23:55

Honestly? It's terrifying. So much scope for saying the wrong thing.

BuffyEpistemiwhatsit · 18/04/2015 23:54

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reni1 · 18/04/2015 23:50

Missing socks ARE a feminist issue. Men's multipack socks are 5x the same and can mix and match, women's are 5 shades.

Sparklingbrook · 18/04/2015 23:49

I have Feminism topic hidden but this appeared in most active and I was curious. Blush

Looks like everything is a feminist issue to me. Grin

reni1 · 18/04/2015 23:47

Snow. Everybody is dressed like the Michelin Man and goes down the slopes like Rambo on coke.

SeraOfeliaFalfurrias · 18/04/2015 23:46

Anyone who thinks Candy Crush isn't a feminist issue hasn't been following GamerGate.

Is the random disappearance of socks in the wash a feminist issue? I mean, yes, it's more likely that women are doing said laundry and thus being the first to discover the missing socks, but I think both men and women suffer equally from being the owners of sad single socks.

What about bananas? Ah wait, the whole "women shouldn't eat phallic fruit on public" thing...

reni1 · 18/04/2015 23:46

I give up. Everything is a feminist issue.

BuffyEpistemiwhatsit · 18/04/2015 23:43

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reni1 · 18/04/2015 23:42

Ah. Sun then.