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I thought I was a feminist until someone showed me this forum.

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debucnik · 18/04/2015 08:20

As in the title I was brought up to believe that feminism is about equality and choice but having recently been introduced to this forum it would appear that that is not the case. The forum gives the impression that feminism is not a choice but compliance to a set of rules.

When did feminism change to fight anyone who doesn't conform to what feminists want, instead of embracing the fact that women are equal with men and its our choice to do what we want?

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King1982 · 20/04/2015 19:23

The OP always had a chance of leaning that way.
I think there was a thread in AIBU that gave similar comments about FWR. I think that's just the way it's perceived and time to move on regardless

YonicScrewdriver · 20/04/2015 19:18

Depressing because once again the discussion isn't about feminism, but about "the regulars"

King1982 · 20/04/2015 19:15

Why?

Hakluyt · 20/04/2015 19:14

It's not entertaining- it's downright depressing!

PuffinsAreFictitious · 20/04/2015 19:14

No idea Seneca. Presumably, it's ok for a poster to attack Buffy, but not ok for Buffy to answer that attack using the attacker's own words.

Sad really.

King1982 · 20/04/2015 19:13

This is entertaining

Hakluyt · 20/04/2015 19:12

Didyou-we are also skating around the fact that the poster you defended's first contribution to the thread was a particularly silly cheap shot, which they repeated when challenged on it. So not some poor innocent who fell among feminists.........

SenecaFalls · 20/04/2015 19:11

Why was Buffy deleted? I had read beyond that, and I don't remember anything delete-worthy.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 20/04/2015 19:03

Are you a flower arranger Yonic?

is something that might be asked if it were relevant to the discussion

YonicScrewdriver · 20/04/2015 18:58

If someone thinks prostitution is ok, neutral, a career like any other, why is being asked if they are a punter a disgusting accusation?

I think flower arranging is ok, though I don't do it myself. I don't think someone asking me if I do is a disgusting accusation.

FloraFox · 20/04/2015 18:53

didyou are you still peddling lies that you were accused of being a punter? I didn't accuse you, I asked you. You are correct that I didn't apologise because I didn't and don't owe you an apology. You should apologise to me for lying about me.

FWR regulars would have to lower their standards of behaviour significantly to meet yours.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 20/04/2015 18:40

"I am interested in alternative views, though I can't promise to agree with them. I don't think this needs to be introductory - as in basic - more introductions. I'll try and think of some questions that might help get things going and shall we try not to talk about pubic hair or married names?

Some starting questions might be, um…

What issues are important to you, as a feminist?

What sort of feminist do you think you are (if you know / are even interested in flavours of feminist this quiz is an interesting one to try)

Do you think that feminists who identify as liberal, radical etc have any common ground, can the different perspectives work together? What value do you see in the different viewpoints?

If there was a feminist political party, on what do you think it should concentrate?

Those questions might be rubbish, so please ask different ones if you want to.

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didyouwritethe · 20/04/2015 18:38

"This isn't an attempt to educate or convert, I am starting it merely because I find it a shame that feminist women don't engage here on the feminist board because of a perception that it's unwelcoming to alternative views."

PuffinsAreFictitious · 20/04/2015 18:37

No.

That thread isn't asking anyone why they don't post here. It's a feminism 101/trying to find out what people would like to discuss thread.

If you'd read the OP, you'd know that.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 20/04/2015 18:33

Good point, well made.

BuffyEpistemiwhatsit · 20/04/2015 18:31

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 20/04/2015 18:28

Have name changed back for a this thread.... apologies if I screw up and instead post on my new name, I won't be sock puppetting Grin

Buffy, you keep starting these threads asking for opinions. You don't want them. Why ask for them?

A) Buffy didn't actually start this thread.

B) I think you're confusing asking for opinions and having to agree with them. If the opinions given are for example, completely untrue or unfair and slightly ridiculous, then Buffy is probably pretty entitled to disagree with them and post about why she does. As are we all.

BuffyEpistemiwhatsit · 20/04/2015 18:23

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didyouwritethe · 20/04/2015 18:12

Again, of course, you are quite wrong. There was no apology.

Buffy, you keep starting these threads asking for opinions. You don't want them. Why ask for them?

BuffyEpistemiwhatsit · 20/04/2015 18:06

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Hakluyt · 20/04/2015 18:05

"That disgusting accusation was made by regulars on the basis that we disagreed with the hive view."

No. The question was asked- don't know if it was an accusation because it was deleted- because the other poster, who had already posted very provocatively, said things which indicated that they could very well have been a defender of punters. They do appear frequently on threads about sex-work. It's almost as if there's a call to arms.....

didyouwritethe · 20/04/2015 17:59

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didyouwritethe · 20/04/2015 17:57

That disgusting accusation was made by regulars on the basis that we disagreed with the hive view.

didyouwritethe · 20/04/2015 17:56

As you know very well, the regulars accused another poster, and me when I defended her, of being a man who uses prostitutes.

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