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The boat race and equality

141 replies

businesshoursareover · 12/04/2015 11:58

What's your opinion on this?

www.bbc.com/sport/0/rowing/32130222

How is it equality if women are still not allowed to race together with the men or, even better, take part in the men's team trials and get rid of gender segregation all together by having a single race for everyone?

Keeping them separated and having the women's race first as some sort of ''appetizer'' before the men take part in the ''main event'' only helps encourage the stereotype that women are inferior at sports and how they're just ''for the boys''. Hmm

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SabrinnaOfDystopia · 12/04/2015 17:23

I'd be delighted if this shortened the football season.... just one league only. Sod the rest. Go for it OP!

YonicScrewdriver · 12/04/2015 17:21

So that's Usain Bolt vs Any Other Bugger then?

YonicScrewdriver · 12/04/2015 17:21
Grin
FloraFox · 12/04/2015 17:21

Yes Yonic of course! Only two runners allowed in any race as well. No need to watch those other losers.

ChopperGordino · 12/04/2015 17:20

One endless keepy-uppy

YonicScrewdriver · 12/04/2015 17:18

Nah, Flora, just one striker and one goalie, locked in a penalty shoot out for all eternity...

FloraFox · 12/04/2015 17:14

What a bizarre position OP. Should there only be two football teams so we're only watching the best footballers?

SabrinnaOfDystopia · 12/04/2015 17:06

Let's take this (I know I'm Wimbledon obsessed):

It's not worthwhile at all, is it?! No need for that at all in sport - because business can't be sure he's watching the best people.

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 12/04/2015 16:52

Funny isn't it that men dominate at activities invented by men to test men against other men isn't it...

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 12/04/2015 16:49

There is a massive lack of sport participation by women and girls in the UK at the moment. This is a discrepancy which is not replicated elsewhere in Europe (which I read the other day and was surprised at, but there you go).

So we put all the boys and girls and men and women in together to compete. The result will be that women and girls are excluded from competition, at all levels. This will mean no visible female role models for girls and women to aspire to.

The lack of female participation, which has been identified as problematical for society for a number of reasons, will (obviously) increase when your plan is put into force.

How do you plan to mitigate the problems that will follow, or do you not consider them to be an issue.

Why does the idea of boys at schools running around outside while girls don't - which happens too much at the moment - make you happy?

What sort of sporting activity do you think women and girls should be allowed to engage in? If you agree that exercise is beneficial for female sex people. I'm guessing individual gym-based non-competitive activities involving tight clothes? Possibly dancing?

YonicScrewdriver · 12/04/2015 16:49

Sabrinna, it'd shorten the Olympics too, only one weight category in boxing, weightlifting etc etc.

YonicScrewdriver · 12/04/2015 16:48

Let's have a bit of sympathy for OP, who clearly only wants to watch men's sports as he considers them so innately superior - and he must really struggle to find any mainstream coverage of such sports...

Oh, wait a minute...

Yops · 12/04/2015 16:46

So, business hours, do you think the upcoming Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight should be abandoned then? Either of the Klitschko's would marmalise them - probably beat them both at the same time to be honest. Because these two are about to put on the most expensive boxing match in history. Should it be called off?

SabrinnaOfDystopia · 12/04/2015 16:46

Blimey - Wimbledon would be a bit short then! Bit dull too. And no paralympics unless they can compete with able-bodied competitors.

TeiTetua · 12/04/2015 16:45

"The one race to rule them all..."

Like Marie Stopes wanted?

ChopperGordino · 12/04/2015 16:42

Why do you want that?

businesshoursareover · 12/04/2015 16:41

Don't you see that at the moment?

No. I want everyone to compete in the same race and not different races, genders etc. Gender equal trials for all men and women, select the best competitors and have the one race to rule them all.

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TeiTetua · 12/04/2015 16:41

I've never heard feminists lamenting because a woman's body isn't as big and strong as a man's. What the world needs is ways to regard women's achievements as being as valuable as men's, and for most sports, that doesn't mean putting everyone in together. If the biggest competitor isn't always going to win, though, there's nothing to stop everyone being in the same event, like riding or shooting.

But here's an idea. Rowing is inherently a team sport where there's no opportunity to lurk in the back of the pack. How about mixed rowing, where every boat must have 4 women and 4 men, and the cox can be either (or "any" as some would have it)? Make it a contest where the objective is to get men and women working together. Too artificial maybe? Oh well.

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 12/04/2015 16:38

I mean what do posters like this expect.

FWR to go en masse Well FUCK ME you're right women are shit, you have proven it with your immaculate argument! I'm going to pack in this what about women malarkey and get right back to those sandwiches.

YonicScrewdriver · 12/04/2015 16:36

If I could wave my feminist wand, not only would I increase funding for all women's and girls' sports bodies, I'd make competitive sport equal all the way down.

No kick about in the playground unless the teams are equal or unless girls are getting equal kick about time to boys. Netball tots as well as soccer tots for preschoolers and both being gender balanced. Etc etc. Thus giving both girls and boys the idea that competitive sport is a possibility before anyone gets into proper training or choosing sports.

SabrinnaOfDystopia · 12/04/2015 16:34

Competitive dad! Grin

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 12/04/2015 16:32
SabrinnaOfDystopia · 12/04/2015 16:31

I want to see all the best people compete,

Don't you see that at the moment?

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 12/04/2015 16:31

Right so bish bash bosh done with the egg and spoon race in school sports days then. I could well easily beat all those 6yo and so could most of the other parents. HA! Suckers!

But OH SHIT the men, younger women and non disabled could beat me.
All my hopes dashed Sad

This is like competitive dad on the fast show Grin

businesshoursareover · 12/04/2015 16:21

I want to see all the best people compete, I don't care about their age, sex or race.

Also , did someone compare women with paralympics? Do you also believe women should have their own separate olympics then?

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