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Transgender kids article in today's Guardian

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TerraNovice · 05/04/2015 09:06

Did anyone see this article about Louis Theroux's documentary that airs tonight? www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/05/transgender-kids-children-change-sex-families

Admittedly I have some issues with it. Is it really good to give kids hormone blockers from childhood? And I do find one of the mothers' statement problematic where she says she felt like she had a little girl because her son liked her shoes and "feminine" things and wasn't interested if you put a truck in front of him. I find these ideas of gender really reductive. A child who is uninterested in traditional masculine or feminine toys etc may not necessarily be transgender, they could be an effeminate boy or a butch girl. Why pump them full of hormones when they are very little?

Any thoughts?

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MsAnndrist · 05/04/2015 11:25

It could just be poor reporting but I've found that pretty much every article I've read aboit trans children has the parents saying that their son didn't like playing with cars or their daughter didn't like playing with dolls and that's what alerted them. I find it quite disturbing that the only reason they can think of for their child not playing with gendered toys is that they're trans.

trufflesnout · 05/04/2015 10:59

I agree, that sort of rigid gender binary is helpful to no one.

tibbysmum · 05/04/2015 10:59

Puffins, I'm sorry you've had to deal with dysphoria - no one should ever tell you "to die in a fire"! and of course you should be able to express an opinion.
Terra, I think the article (like most about this subject) tends to present a massively over simplified version of the facts. I agree the heels/trucks is irritating.

TerraNovice · 05/04/2015 10:51

I dont have issues with trans people, I have issues with the article, namely the concept of gender depicted in it. Heels = girls and trucks = boys? Really?

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 05/04/2015 10:47

No one has "issues" with "trans* people". And no one is judging. I have quite a bit of experience of dealing with body dysmorphia, thanks. Way to misrepresent.

What I have an issue with is completely different, but I'm also aware that expressing my knowledge or opinion will attract vitriol and hatred and being told to die in a fire, so I'll just leave you to agree with each other.

tibbysmum · 05/04/2015 10:33

GoGi you make a great point - if some of the people who have issues with Trans people had ever experienced dysphoria, or been involved with people with dysphoria and seen the trauma then they might be less inclined to judge.

GoGiYerHeedAWobble · 05/04/2015 10:26

I am 'pumping my son full of drugs', as you put it, because he is 10 years old and he atrongly feels as if he is in the wrong body.

He has always liked a mixed bag of toys and activities, dolls and cars, dancing and boxing, but that's nothing to do with his decision, and it is his decision, to live as a male at this time.

If you saw the tears, panic attacks, and depression he suffered about his changing body then you wouldn't question for a minute why we decided to go for blockers.

I can't imagine what it's like to be born into a body that is all wrong, it's my job to support my son as best I can, and that's all I'm doing.

WidowWadman · 05/04/2015 10:11

I guess they're not being given anything willy-nilly and it's a good thing that these children have parents who take them seriously and look to help them over their dysphoria and don't let their own ideology get in the way.

merrymouse · 05/04/2015 10:09

I agree it seems odd if (like me) you or your children didn't have any particularly strong concept of gender at a young age.

However, I am sure that for the families there is more to it than can be communicated in a documentary or newspaper article.

TerraNovice · 05/04/2015 10:02

Sorry, that's a typo - meant to say drugs, not hormones.

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tibbysmum · 05/04/2015 09:14

they aren't "pumped full of hormones" OP, they have hormone blockers to delay puberty.