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Man mutilates woman and some people think it is hilarious. Depressing.

82 replies

treaclesoda · 27/03/2015 09:29

horrendous domestic abuse newspaper story

I don't think I've ever posted in this section before, but I saw this and felt the need. The story itself is horrible but actually what has shocked me even more is that I stumbled across it on facebook where there are about a thousand comments beneath the link and the vast majority of them are from people saying how hilarious it is. And most of the people laughing at it are women. Hmm I've got a good sense of humour, sometimes even a dark sense of humour, but no matter how black my humour, I just can't see anything even vaguely amusing about a woman being mutilated. Confused

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Ouchbloodyouch · 30/03/2015 06:06

I saw this on the lad bible on Facebook
I told several posters to "fuck off' I fully expected a volley of misogynistic abuse but I didn't.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 30/03/2015 05:44

What he showed was a screenshot from chat from 2007 which:

  • has was deleted from MN archives after 28 days, as are all posts in chat
  • has been posted on other threads from an MRE site many times in the last 8 years
  • doesn't have any feminists, radical or otherwise, posting on it, judging from their lack of posts within FWR

Your friend's point was that radical feminists laugh all the time about violence toward males. What he showed was that 8 years ago, some women wrote some horrible things about the subject. If it were feminists, the post would have been from this part of the forum. If it were a regular thing, he would have been able to produce more and more recent screenshots.

No actual feminist would think what was said in that thread was justifiable, because violence isn't justifiable except in self defence.

Presumably, you're not going to be satisfied until every feminist has stated clearly that violence is bad, in the same way as you think all Muslims should stand up and say that terrorism is bad, but, as that is unlikely to happen merely because you will it, you're going to have to remain cynical.

Nice touch comparing feminism to religious extremist terrorists though, not had that one in a while.

DailyFailSideBarOfShame · 30/03/2015 04:41

I agree with lazo that there is a double standard over laughing at female on male violence and of seeing it as justified, the last straw, an act of desperation etc, but never the other way around. Just because the screen shot is from 2007 doesn't make it less valid, does it? He was challenged to show some evidence to back up his point and he did.

I disagree that 'all feminists' don't care about female on male violence, or will laugh at it. That's ridiculous.

But I think I know what he means, though he has expressed it clumsily and unintelligently. Radical Feminists in general put very little effort into denouncing examples of female on male violence (or other perceived anti-male behaviour) when invited to do so. For example on a thread like the one in the screen shot they will sneer and laugh at worst, (the unintelligent minority) dismiss it or aim to justify it (the overwhelming majority) or just ignore it and refuse to engage in a debate about it at best, because they cannot defend the indefensible but as a matter of principle will never take a man's side over a woman's in anything. Even having his cock set alight when he's minding his own business watching TV, because his ex wife is miffed that he can't afford to move out. Confused So their answer is to just ignore it.

Whereas they have an insatiable appetite for discussing/analysing at enormous length much less serious, sometimes quite trivial and tenuous examples of men being a bit shit to women.

It's a bit like the UK masses demanding that all very devout Muslims and Islamic clerics stand up and publicly denounce Islamist terror attacks to prove that as Muslims they are not terrorist sympathisers. Many do of course, but the deafening silence from the remainder does tend to make people rather cynical.

GibberingFlapdoodle · 29/03/2015 13:39

I see the @s are back... Won't bother repeating the others' calls for a reality check, since you ain't listening. Or reading.

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 29/03/2015 11:45

Come on then, lazocuter, tell us poor misguided wimmin how all feminists are man haters. Despite the fact many of us have male partners, male children, male friends and male family we love very much.

I'm sure we'll understand it once you've mansplained it to us.

Devora · 29/03/2015 02:27

So you are defining 'feminist' as 'man-hating' then? So a feminist who says she doesn't approve of violence against men is clearly not much of a feminist?

So kind of you to drop by and mansplain to us how we have misunderstood our own political philosophy. Sleep tight, and don't forget to wipe your sweaty palms on your way in.

lazocuter · 29/03/2015 02:21

@puds, then at least you aren't as feminist as some of the others.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE · 29/03/2015 00:53

Lazocuter I'm going to assume that you haven't met every feminist on the planet, and can therefore not comment that "all the feminists" find male victims of domestic abuse hilarious. What a stupid comment!

I am a feminist. I have been a victim of domestic violence. I also have male friends who had been victims of domestic violence. I find neither situation amusing in the slightest, and highly resent the implication that I would based on my feminist views.

Have a word eh?

StillLostAtTheStation · 29/03/2015 00:48

I told my husband about it and first of all he thought I was describing a movie plot and when he realised it was true said " that is a very dangerous man who should be locked up for a long time "

I am fairly certain my husband isn't a radical feminist although he is a decent man or even a decent person

PuffinsAreFictitious · 29/03/2015 00:45
Grin
MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 29/03/2015 00:42

lazocuter is a troll... yes? Grin

This story is horrendous. OH read it out to me and we were both absolutely horrified.

YonicScrewdriver · 29/03/2015 00:40

Don't start on the fruit again, Puffins

Grin
PuffinsAreFictitious · 29/03/2015 00:39

It's odd actually, I can't find any of those posts on an AS. Any of them. So... either it's a figment of this idiot's imagination orrrrrr was taken from Chat 7.5 years ago and has been used as an example of the bad mummies being mean about men.

I reckon the second. However, none of those posters posts or (from the same AS) have posted on the Feminism boards. So, probably not feminists, and not representing feminist views.

You really do have a loose grip on reality, don't you Laz, old fruit.

squoosh · 29/03/2015 00:33

This is why I just cannot support feminism or take anyone who calls herself a feminist seriously.

No. You don't take feminism seriously for some ridiculous hang up of your own and have decided to use this nonsense argument as some kind of justification.

Pretty feeble effort.

YonicScrewdriver · 29/03/2015 00:25

Lazo, a screen shot from 2007?

Every day rape threats, genital mutilation threats, home addresses etc are posted on twitter to women, and lots of men LOL in support.

You wouldn't like me to make a generalisation about all men from that, I assume?

Btw, that's not from the feminist board. HTH.

StillLostAtTheStation · 29/03/2015 00:16

So yeah, the only people who tend to laugh at people in pain are men. Like you

Puffins , not entirely true as there appear from what other posters have said that there were women too who found it funny.

I think correctly you should have said "are witless idiots lacking any shred of decency or sympathy. Like you "

PuffinsAreFictitious · 29/03/2015 00:13

They totally rock Grin

BigRedBall · 29/03/2015 00:13

It was my on my feed too and the headline was "woman abused by husband", except I don't know why, I feel"abuse" isn't a strong enough word for this, it should be "sexually assaulted" or "sexually attacked" "sexually mutilated"....the fact it was played down by the media with soft wording annoys me.

Poor woman Sad. If anyone finds this funny they need their head read.

Devora · 29/03/2015 00:10

Love all my pretty asterisks!

Devora · 29/03/2015 00:09

*This is why I just cannot support feminism or take anyone who calls herself a feminist seriously.

Domestic violence should be unacceptable regardless of gender, but whenever a female is violent towards a male feminists all find it fucking hilarious.*

OK, let's give this one last try. Can't you see that you're stuck in a self-perpetuating belief cycle? You have here self-identified feminists who believe that domestic violence is unacceptable regardless of gender. But rather than re-examine your belief that all feminists find violence to men fucking hilarious, you prefer to call us liars. What evidence would convince you that all feminists do not find violence against men funny, I wonder?

PuffinsAreFictitious · 29/03/2015 00:08

This is why I just cannot support feminism or take anyone who calls herself a feminist seriously.

And? Who cares?

Domestic violence should be unacceptable regardless of gender, but whenever a female is violent towards a male feminists all find it fucking hilarious.

No, still wrong. And looking increasingly stupid.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 29/03/2015 00:07

Sharon Osbourne is a radical feminist?

pahahahahahahaha.

hahahahahahaha.

Now you're just being stupid.

You are correct I know, but the law of averages suggest that you had to get something correct that DV and assaults are unacceptable. No one on this thread has disputed that. Oh, except you, who seems to think that mocking a woman who has been the victim of a sexually aggravated attack is someone you need to be giggling about. So yeah, the only people who tend to laugh at people in pain are men. Like you.

StillLostAtTheStation · 29/03/2015 00:05

I guessed that the new posts would be from you lazocuter

Let's deal with your posts in order.

No. 1 no not true. I can't recall ever encountering what you describe. If anything I think many women judge violent women more harshly than they judge men.

  1. Do they say this? I assume you mean "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned (what you have written makes no sense).
The full quote is "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned". I often disagree with the regular posters here but I've never heard any of them say this.
  1. I am stuck with this one as it makes no sense at all.
Devora · 29/03/2015 00:05

Sharon Osbourne a radical feminist?! Oh, that is hilarious Grin

Devora · 29/03/2015 00:04

Well, this conversation is going to get us places, isn't it? If we say we don't think violence against men is funny you'll say we're fucking liars. If we say it is funny you'll do... what? Abuse us even more?

Why exactly are you wasting your time on here? Are you drunk?