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What are the most prominent schools of thought within feminism?

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willkeaveney62417 · 25/03/2015 14:55

What are the most prominent schools of thought within feminism?

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MrsWembley · 27/03/2015 21:09

Interesting thought, but spoilt by the hideous way in which the writer uses bullet points.

TeiTetua · 27/03/2015 16:56

All that talk of veggies somehow made me think of "vegetable love"--what if men treated edible plants as objects to lust after? A boon for women, or perhaps not.

It does show up in "To His Coy Mistress", though there it seems to mean a desire that grows slowly and naturally. But then (coincidentally, or more likely not) it appears in a Gilbert & Sullivan song I remembered a few lines of, where a man is genuinely, or just for show, seeming to be in love with plants, and that's where the quote came from.

I went and looked up the Marvell line and found an amusing explanation:
www.shmoop.com/to-his-coy-mistress/stanza-1-lines-1-20-summary.html

A good feminist analysis of that would be interesting.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 26/03/2015 23:52

TeiTetua Is that a reference to an Andrew Marvell poem?

TeiTetua · 26/03/2015 18:41

Bloody Mumsnet formatting, thou shalt check first...

TeiTetua · 26/03/2015 18:40

For one thing, it's clear that men must eat their veggies.

^If he's content with a vegetable love which would certainly not suit me,
Why, what a most particularly pure young man this pure, young man must bel^

I mean. Think of the vitamins. (But only if the plant gives its full and enthusiastic consent of course.)

OublietteBravo · 26/03/2015 17:56

Anyone else thinking that this thread has actually become quite a good summary of the schools of thought (and concomitant complexities) of feminism? Wink

TheVermiciousKnid · 26/03/2015 16:16
SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 26/03/2015 16:07

I'm identifying as a mushroom. All you fruit and vegetables people are excluding me :(

SunshineBossaNova · 26/03/2015 15:59

I'm celery and I demand you let me in the fruitbowl.

scalliondays · 26/03/2015 15:44

Ha ha! Not as spring as I once was - probably why I'm a scallion.... Smile

uglyswan · 26/03/2015 12:54

spring onion? Ageist!

scalliondays · 26/03/2015 12:34

I'm obviously a spring onion feminist...

GibberingFlapdoodle · 26/03/2015 12:24

And tomatoes - only valued as a vegetable ally. Disgraceful. This kind of empowerment is just skin-deep. You're pretending to give them a choice, it's a false choice: both lead to false stereotypes.

Let fruit be fruit.

GibberingFlapdoodle · 26/03/2015 12:14

I'm still parading out here with my banner for fruit rights. The only time fruit has been valued so far on this thread is when it has to live as a vegetable. For shame on you all, you think you're campaigning for equal rights and then say that pineapples can only be valued insofar as they act as vegetables on pizzas.

Not that I like pineapples myself but I will stand up for their right to self-identity. Apples. Can never go wrong with an apple.

OublietteBravo · 26/03/2015 07:35

I'm presuming you are referring to my stance on pineapple Jeanne

(Because if you are referring to my childhood celery & cream cheese memories, I'm very confused).

IrenetheQuaint · 25/03/2015 22:47

I'm saladfluid. Today I'm identifying as lollo rosso, and it's really important to me that people respect that.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 25/03/2015 22:47

Yes, but it's a lesbian fallacy, oub.

OublietteBravo · 25/03/2015 22:47

My grandma used to serve celery sticks stuffed with cream cheese - probably one of the reasons I like it.

BeyondDoesBootcamp · 25/03/2015 22:45

Celery with a blob of pate down the gap is good. Tis my standard 'bread' type thing now i'm lowcarbing Grin

OublietteBravo · 25/03/2015 22:43

I want to identify as pineapple - they get served on pizza and with gammon and you can make salsa with them, so they must be allowed to classify themselves as vegetables.

ChopperGordino · 25/03/2015 22:41

Puffins you're doing celery eating wrong in that case. It should come with a massive dollop of full fat cream cheese or a wedge of Stilton. Amazing.

OublietteBravo · 25/03/2015 22:41

More calories to digest than it contains is a fallacy. Nestlé ran into lots of legal difficulties when they tried to launch a tea product with that type of claim (Enviga - no longer sold).

BeyondDoesBootcamp · 25/03/2015 22:39

T omato ERF!!

PuffinsAreFictitious · 25/03/2015 22:37

Anything which allegedly takes more calories to digest than it contains IS a crime against humanity.

So there.

OublietteBravo · 25/03/2015 22:35

Awwww Puffins - I don't hate you, just radishes and broccoli because it looks like thousands of tadpoles all bunched together and tastes horrible Celery is awesome - preferably raw, it looses something if you cook it.

DH is with you - he seems to consider celery as some kind of crime against humanity.