YA author's anti-lesbian,anti-women comments

He has apologised. Repeatedly. He was confronted with what he had done on his Facebook feed and has tried to make amends for what he did.
Yes, the lead male character in the Cherub books is a bit of a twat. But he is forced to confront his homophobia and is regularly given what for by the girls he treats shabbily and many of the characters point out to him that this is what he is doing.
I follow him on Facebook and would say that this is an incident that has already been dealt with.

Basically the moment some women behave like men do all the time, but still in a much less threatening way, they need to be kicked as hard as possible.

Pathetic that the kicking of choice is to say you're ugly and you're a dyke and you need more cock to sort you out, I mean it's not exactly original is it.

Well his response wasn't to feel a bit vulnerable and get away was it. It was to go out in the media and call them a bunch of ugly dykes who needed a good seeing to / corrective rape.

So his reaction was to be incredibly angry and to lash out with misogynist homophobic language.

When women get groups of men shouting stuff at them their response is to get away because they are scared.

You can't see the relevance of that at all?

But you don't really care about what happens to women and girls do you so not sure why I'm bothering.

You are misrepresenting what happened, and defending a man who came out with a load of misogynistic, homophobic vitriol, with overtones of corrective rape, aimed at a group of people that included a child. So, you know, whatever.

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom

"Because, of course, it's not an everyday occurrence for a woman to be called a slag.

Oh wait, it is."

Are you talking to yourself because what you've just typed clearly refers to my post but doesn't actually relate to anything in it?

PilchardPrincess

"Incidentally I have had groups of men shout things like "slag" at me, as have many women.

My response to them was to, um feel a bit vulnerable and get away.

So not sure what that shows really."

Apart from bad reading comprehension, nothing. Because your anecdote has sweet FA to do with the comparative scenario I was describing.

Because, of course, it's not an everyday occurrence for a woman to be called a slag.

Oh wait, it is.

Dotheyfloat
"His remarks were undoubtedly tasteless..."

PilchardPrincess
"So you think that saying a 14yo girl needs to be raped by lots of men is an appropriate response to anything.

Righto."

1. WTF? I have no idea what perverted thought process lead you to that conclusion.

2. RM isn't quoted as saying anything remotely like that.

Pilchard. The name suits you.

Incidentally I have had groups of men shout things like "slag" at me, as have many women.

My response to them was to, um feel a bit vulnerable and get away.

So not sure what that shows really.

This happened days ago. He has already apologised and made donations to charity.
He was understandably angry and being called a rapist for going to see a film.
I was more disappointed that he'd been to see the film quite frankly.

Just read a bit more.

Why are you drawing a parallel between women who enjoy consensual sex, and rapists?

This all seems rather confused.

As per your first post on the thread.

In case you forgot that you juxtapositioned those two points, and then said if people can't "take shit" they shouldn't dish it out.

So you think that saying a 14yo girl needs to be raped by lots of men is an appropriate response to anything.

Righto.

Actually, the fact that a man in a suit can be a rapist will come as a surprise to a lot of people- the usual image is a man lurking in a back alley in jogging bottoms and a balaclava.................

TheGirlFromIpanema
"1) Pointing to a picture of a rapist, sorry character and saying this is what a rapist looks like is not a sweeping statement though is it? They are pointing out one man/rapist. Hardly sweeping."

If a group of men recorded themselves chanting 'that is what a slag looks like' at an image of Anastasia Steele would feminists construe that as an attack on the character or women in general? And if that group were then accused by a single female of saying she was 'asking for it' as she walked into the cinema, would you regard that accusation as plausible based on the video evidence the men had taken of themselves, displaying an attitude towards an image of a female character that was highly derogatory?

TheGirlFromIpanema
"2) So you are inclined to believe the video is doctored?"

I've neither said nor implied that.

" That the one person who makes various shitty comments allover the place is less likely to be lying than the group of protestors?

Weird."

You're conflating having obnoxious opinions with lying. The two are unrelated.

TheGirlFromIpanema
"Do you have a 60 second video showing what he is saying they said though?

Otherwise the other side win on the basis of evidence presented, surely?"

As I've said the evidence suggests they are prepared make sweeping statements about men and rape. "That's what a rapist looks like"... what a steaming pile of nonsense. You can't ask a tailor for 'rapist pinstripe' and expect to get a smile and a nod as he walks over to the appropriate roll of fabric. But it implies any man wearing a suit 'looks like a rapist', an appearance which happens to be ubiquitous amongst the male population. So to state that 'all men are rapists' is a relatively small step away from what they have already recorded themselves as saying.

That works against them, not for them.

I've talked to DS about RM's books and the way he writes female characters (i.e. not very well at all). I'll be passing this latest info to him as well as a bit of background.

1. Pointing to a picture of a rapist, sorry character and saying this is what a rapist looks like is not a sweeping statement though is it? They are pointing out one man/rapist. Hardly sweeping.

2. So you are inclined to believe the video is doctored? That the one person who makes various shitty comments allover the place is less likely to be lying than the group of protestors?

Weird.

I'd also agree there's absolutely no need for a sexist persona in order to sell YA books. On the whole I'd say bestselling YA fiction is far less sexist / homophobic than the real world . . .

Do you have a 60 second video showing what he is saying they said though?

Otherwise the other side win on the basis of evidence presented, surely?

TheGirlFromIpanema
"Why though dotheyfloat? Genuine question.

If you are unsure as to which side the facts fall, why would you take his stance over their's?"

" ... they were happy to point at a picture of some bloke in a suit and chant "that's what a rapist looks like", not 'Christian Grey is a rapist'; I'm inclined to give RM the benefit of the doubt.."

1. They have already established a willingness to make a sweeping statement re: men and rape. It is not unreasonable to imagine they made another, albeit more direct, sweeping statement.

2. "I'm inclined to believe..." =/= I'm certain everyone else is lying. However much it may suit someone's victim complex to believe otherwise.

"I'm inclined to give RM the benefit of the doubt."

I'm struggling to see how the line "ugly women with short hair who I assume were lesbians" has any relationship to anything.

I'd be quite happy to listen to an argument about why this protest was inappropriate. But ad hominem attacks like saying 'these protesters are ugly'? Not so much.

"Don't believe the women. Women all lie, innit."

Oh, look, a victim card. How unexpected.

The 60 second video proves what they were saying, for 60 those seconds. There is no indication RM was there at that particular point in time. If you think my reasoning is unsound then please, explain why.

He is obviously an attention seeking mysogynist homophobic git with a massive sense of entitlement. But the "slaughter a whining lefty spree" line did make me laugh. Speaking as a whining lefty.

Why though dotheyfloat? Genuine question.

If you are unsure as to which side the facts fall, why would you take his stance over their's?

Of course you are. That much is crystal clear.

Don't believe the women. Women all lie, innit.