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Cisgender Lesbians & Trans Women

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 16:38

www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/02/16/cisgender_lesbians_and_trans_women_how_to_mend_the_rift.html

I am a straight 'cisgender' woman but a friend of mine in America posted this article and I thought it was really interesting to think about 'other' kinds of women. I cant say I know very much about it or feminism with a capital F since I left university but this article definitely makes what it calls TERFS - 'trans-exclusionary radical feminists' look quite bad so I was wondering if anyone on MN had read it and had any thoughts. No one in my house ever wants to have a chat about this stuff Smile

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BuffytheThunderLizard · 17/02/2015 17:33

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 17/02/2015 17:22

If you do do that analysis, would you share it please, Buffy?

One of the authors of the article is deeply problematic for me, so, although I've read it, I had difficulty seeing past the screams of TERF that they are known for.

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 17:21

the tone of the article i posted made it seem like a more friendly disagreement but now i can see how fraught it is

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 17:21

I've got about half way through the other post and can definitely see why I should have done more research. is there some way to delete posts? i can see why people thought i was being too flippant

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BuffytheThunderLizard · 17/02/2015 17:16

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 16:57

And OddBoots!

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 16:57

Thank you BunnyLebowski Smile

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BunnyLebowski · 17/02/2015 16:52

Thread 1

Thread 2

I lurked on both and found them hugely informative and helpful in figuring out my own stance on these issues.

OddBoots · 17/02/2015 16:51

There's a good article you could read here to learn a bit more about the TERF term and the bullying behaviour of many of the people who use it.

GraysAnalogy · 17/02/2015 16:50

Absolutely hate the term CIS

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 16:48

If either of you have a link to such a thread I'd appreciate it! Smile

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LineRunner · 17/02/2015 16:47

OP, if you search the site there is a lot of discussion.

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 16:47

Did not mean to cause offense!

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 16:46

I'm sorry MonstrousRatbag I haven't posted on this board before I should have read below. I'd never heard of this before today to be honest.

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LineRunner · 17/02/2015 16:45

And MonstrousRatbag's advice is very good.

LineRunner · 17/02/2015 16:44

Simple enough question.

MonstrousRatbag · 17/02/2015 16:44

This is a fraught topic with very strong feelings on both sides. I hope you are sincere-the thought of someone stirring that particular hornet's nest for the LOLs is pretty unpalatable.

Anyway, on the Feminism Chat board you will find a lot of threads that cover the various arguments about the term 'cis', trans people generally and so-called 'TERFs' very fully.

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kellyandthecat · 17/02/2015 16:43

what do you mean by that LineRunner?

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LineRunner · 17/02/2015 16:41

What if I told you I find 'cis' an othering term in itself?

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