Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

Haven't been here much over the weekend, but I see that we have visitors.

It's the year of the goat soon. The pub goat will be pleased. (Or do we still have a pub goat?)

Found you all!

DoctorTwo

Doctor... I am so sorry that happened to you

Go and sleep!

I'm so sorry he did that to you

We took DSes to see Big Hero 6 today (we will not be welcome back, DS2 decided that the sweet he wanted was at the bottom of the cup and upended it all on the floor to search for it before I could stop him)

Nice to see that whilst the Hero (Hiro) was male, 2/4 of the supporting heros were female, as was 50% of the 3rd line cast (including a test pilot) - admittedly, there was a bit of stereo typing (chemist woman hero, in her pink and purple outfit who through exploding balls from her hero's handbag), but not as bad as other cartoons.

Perhaps I shouldn't have been so surprised - Wreck it Ralph was done by the same people and wasn't too bad about the balance either

Well EBear, I was sleeping on a sofa, he was sleeping with his wife upstairs. Well, he was until he came down and raped me. I did share a bed with a man once and he respected my choice not to have sex with him. He tried but I said no, because I don't identify as gay so he gave up and we went to sleep. He wasn't a rapist, the man who raped me is.

Sorry if I don't reply for a while, during the week I'm out for 17 hours a day so only get about 6 hours sleep a day. I might have to get a laptop...

Doctor, I would imagine that the barrister is the sort of person who thinks if you're in the same bed as someone, then you've essentially consented, because otherwise, you'd have never gone out in the first place.

I'm sorry it happened to you.

I wonder why people think that way? I mean, I know it's because they're sexist idiots, but for something like a pilot, you don't just pitch up and take the helm (or whatever it's called for aircraft.) You have to do however many hours of flying time and qualify as a pilot before you're allowed to do it - and if it's like other male-dominated industries, women are likely going to have to prove themselves that much more than their male peers, so logically, you're probably better off with a female pilot than a male one.

Not sure that I've ever flown with a female pilot, partly because I don't think of it as significantly notable to bother remembering once I'm back on the ground.

I wonder if that barrister would defend my rapist because I'd had a few drinks and was asleep when he penetrated me... Whether he would or not his views are, to quote Rhona Cameron, cuntish. Beyond this I have nothing to add.

Indeed Grimble. I was on a flight with a female pilot, and after she had announced herself the man sitting next to me thought that it would be appropriate to tell me that he doesn't feel particularly safe with a woman at the controls. And actually seemed surprised when I didn't wholeheartedly agree with him and proceeded to give him the cold shoulder for the rest of the flight.

I love it when I get on a plane and hear "this is your captain speaking.." and the voice is, shock horror, female. Cue some shifting in seats by some of the Y chromosome owners.

He's said a few things along the lines of 'that's for girls' recently, I think it's from pre-school. They're generally very good but I might have a little word with his key worker.

It's funny how things like that sneak in.

It's not all bad - someone I knew, their child was quite shocked to realise that men could be doctors too, because they'd never met one.

I've seen lots of women bus drivers, but I reacted similarly when I saw women builders. Must be tough people!

ifyou'rehoppyandyouknowit

I was really surprised to see a female bus driver the other day. Which is ridiculous because there is no reason at all that a woman can't be a bus driver (or a doctor or an astronaut or a race car driver) but I still did a bit of a double take.

It's funny how we can have these conditioned responses without even realising it.

I have enough books in my to-read pile to last that long easily!

Dd2 thought that too until I pointed out that she's only ever met women doctors, and the last nurse we saw was a man. Now she tells all her friends that everyone is allowed to do jobs that they're good at.

Hoppy I've seen that with a child whose own mother is a doctor

So this morning I've learnt that my three year old thinks that doctors are automatically men, and nurses are women. What? Where has he got this from?! It's not me or DH I'm sure.

Morning ladies (and any gentlemen ).

Hello again!

I joined in the last Pub but it whizzed by so fast my poor fingers couldn't keep up.

*Drinks a large can of Red Bull and attaches a rocket to her wrist.