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Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 07/02/2015 19:25

This is the 17th incarnation of the Feminist Pub!

Here be goats, cannons and chat on feminism and related themes. Also snacks. And booze, copious booze.

Welcome!

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OublietteBravo · 10/02/2015 20:51

I realised last year that I was compensating for her uselessness. My male colleague wasn't (we share a secretary). I decided I needed to adopt his approach and stop facilitating her incompetence. I still find it hard sometimes. I don't like causing a fuss and piling extra work onto the other secretaries.

OublietteBravo · 10/02/2015 20:48

I just find it so draining. She has zero initiative - if I don't specifically ask her to do it, it doesn't get done. So if I'm travelling I have to specify the precise flight and hotel and remember to tell her I need a car to the airport (and even then I have to tell her to print the tickets/itinerary). If I need her to print a letter for me to sign, I have to tell her precisely which template to use and where the file copy needs to go (and then check it actually gets sent - a couple of times she's just put a copy on file and not sent the letter off). And she constantly complains about how much she hates her job so do us all a favour and resign

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 10/02/2015 20:34

It doesn't sound harsh. My secretary back in the day was bloody amazing. Bu I've seen what a difference a poor one makes. Performance management is just such a painful drawn out process, isn't it.

OublietteBravo · 10/02/2015 20:32

I'm going to find another secretary to do it for me. My secretary is useless and HR are involved monitoring her performance etc. I need to make sure that anything she doesn't do gets logged, in the hope that she will eventually get sacked (I know it sounds harsh, but HR have already been involved for almost 2 years, and I'd just like a secretary who actually does his or her job for once).

UptoapointLordCopper · 10/02/2015 20:17

Oubliette My resolution is to do only my job, and sometimes other people's jobs, but only if it's to my definite advantage. Wink Everyone for herself. Grin

OublietteBravo · 10/02/2015 20:14

Hmmm - I think I might tap my pen rather a lot when I'm working. I'm probably irritating the crap out of my colleaguesBlush

My New Years resolution was to only do my job (and not anyone else's). Trouble is my secretary is off sick again and I'd really like my expenses to be reimbursed. What to do....

PuffinsAreFictitious · 10/02/2015 20:07

Lol, all I could think was....

Is this Buffy's breather? From the other day.

DS taps, it's one of his stims, but I can tune that out, this guy though, was going for some kind of award.

UptoapointLordCopper · 10/02/2015 20:05

Eeek puffins.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 10/02/2015 19:20

I have had to spend the whole day sat next to a man who has tapped his foot, then tapped his pen against his teeth and then clicked his pen on and off endlessly.

I am surprised I am not in a cell.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 10/02/2015 19:18

Bloody trolls.

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ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/02/2015 12:05

They don't really have a choice about going elsewhere due to the setting, but I don't think the feedback will matter. She caused some 'ruffled feathers' by whistleblowing some unsafe practices, and that plus being pregnant has basically meant she is at the bottom of the pile for her bosses. I'm really cross for her.

EBearhug · 10/02/2015 11:24

I hope the external clients give their feedback, but probably it'll just mean they go elsewhere.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/02/2015 11:20

Will have a read of that at lunch.

Chatting to a friend yesterday, who has been passed over for promotion, despite external stakeholders specifically asking that she be put in place as she's very very good at her job, in favour of someone who no one likes, external clients refuse to communicate with as the quality of work is so bad, and has a reputation for laziness. But that man isn't pregnant and doesn't have a small child. So much bullshit.

UptoapointLordCopper · 10/02/2015 09:43

Atwood at west point.

EBearhug · 09/02/2015 23:02

Why does my body decide it wants to have a normal body clock that goes to bed before midnight on the week when I have a load of early-hours server updates planned?

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 09/02/2015 21:24

I think that that is sadly very true.

Some men say it semi-openly. Others talk as if it would be far worse if they were raped than if a woman was (I remember a lot of this around the time of that Hollyoaks storyline years ago). Which is only really explicable if you think, on some level, that a woman is always half wanting it. Whereas the reality is both are horrific crimes.

Or the number of people think that rape by a partner is not a 'real rape'.

It's just depressing all round.

HouseWhereNobodyLives · 09/02/2015 21:17

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UptoapointLordCopper · 09/02/2015 21:10

Today I did not check my work email after my working hours. Shock

That's my New Week Resolution.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 09/02/2015 21:05

I suspect that a man like that doesn't really 'believe' in gay women.

I suspect it goes: women are always half asking for it (regardless of persuasion). Gay men are always half asking for it.

I don't want to act like I'm trying to turn this into a theoretical debate about something so awful that has really happened to you. I was just trying to underline his cuntishness really. Angry

DoctorTwo · 09/02/2015 20:59

Thank you all. What about if a man raped a woman who self identified as gay? Would he see that as rape?

Thank you all. It was a while ago and beyond here I've never told anybody. Like many people, mostly women, I'm trying to put it behind me and live my life.

The hours I'm working for the next few weeks are bloody horrendous but should lessen after.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 09/02/2015 12:53

Doctor Sad. I hope you have crammed some sleep in between hideous shifts.

Not that it will be the slightest consolation, but I suspect that that idiot barrister would see you as a 'proper' victim. You may have been drinking, but you were raped by a man when you don't identify as sexually attracted to men. It's only the sex you're attracted to that you are in a permanent state of 'almost consent' towards. Because rape is all about sexual attraction don't you know Hmm

Depresses me so much that people with professional involvement in law can be so.... so...I just don't have the words. So idiotically cuntish.

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 09/02/2015 12:46

House he certainly doesn't have a 'partner', heaven forfend. He has a wife, with a badge of ownership and everything. Oh and how she might feel is utterly irrelevant, she is a woman.

Doctor Flowers It's awful that that rapey creep is spouting this crap.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 09/02/2015 12:36

More likely that goat will have eaten the urchins?

Doctor Flowers

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 09/02/2015 10:06

The goat will be round the back near the chamber pot cupboard, unless the urchins have stolen her for food...

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