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Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 07/02/2015 19:25

This is the 17th incarnation of the Feminist Pub!

Here be goats, cannons and chat on feminism and related themes. Also snacks. And booze, copious booze.

Welcome!

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INickedAName · 25/02/2015 10:28

Thank you for the advice.
Dd understands that she will get comments and she herself doesn't care as is confident in herself to speak up. I cut mine about a year ago, nothing drastic but she saw the comments I got. Shes also had a lot comments about her not wearing dresses and wearing joggers so has a little stock of comebacks. fosho that is exactly the type of thing dd would say. I'm secretly pleased she wants it cutting as it's a pain to maintain.

I'll let dd speak herself as long as she feels confident to and step in if she looks intimidated or on the verge of wanting to say fuck off. :)

Thank you again everyone.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 25/02/2015 10:03

Grin I am totally going to steal that one fo.

My hair is currently very short. My mum keeps sighing sadly at it.

foSho · 25/02/2015 08:48

Hi everyone. I hope you don't mind me intruding but I couldn't help overhearing INickedAName and wanted to say, whenever people have said to me, "Omg your hair! You cut your hair?" I'd look shocked and say "No I didn't! It must have fallen out."

UptoapointLordCopper · 25/02/2015 07:59

NickedAName I think your DD's response was perfect. Well done her! Smile

The Handmaid's Tale was certainly one of the scariest books I've read. I never found any other of Margaret Atwood's books to have quite the same impact as that one, but I know lots of people disagree and they are wrong Grin

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DoctorTwo · 25/02/2015 03:57

Whichever of you it was that recommended I read Margaret Atwood has my undying gratitude. I started with The Blind Assassin, which I mostly worked out bar one twist that I should've seen, and went on to The Handmaid's Tale, which is possibly the most disturbing book I've ever read. It's still very believable though, which is probably the most disturbing thing about it.

It appears DD1 is embracing feminism but is in denial about it, claiming it's egalitarianism. :o

kickassangel · 25/02/2015 01:39

I think that what DD said was perfect. Ask her if she wants you to say something first, or what she'd like to say? Have you talked about how people will react when they see her? It can be quite a shock how much attention she'll get by doing that. Ask her how much she wants to be outspoken - would she be comfortable with the 'stop going on about my hair because Im a girl? kind of response.

FWIW, I think a 10 year old saying something cheerfully can get away with more than you could say.

INickedAName · 24/02/2015 22:44

Hello everyone.

Just wanted a little moan and was hoping for a bit of advice, hope it's ok to post here, I didn't think it was important enough to warrant a seperate thread.

Dd (10) has really long hair, it just past her bum, she hates wearing it down and has it in a plait almost all of the time, we read something a few weeks ago about cut hair being donated to make wigs for children who may have lost their hair, dd asked yesterday if she could have her hair cut to shoulder length and donate her cut hair. I'm going to book her an appointment and dd is really excited.

Today when she came out of school her bobble had snapped so her was down, the mums I was stood with all started running their hands through dds hair, telling her how pretty she was with it down and she should wear it like that more often, dd then told them she getting it cut and why , one of my friends said to her "that's a shame, you're very pretty with it long" dd just said " there's more important things than being pretty" and then we left, I know I should have said something myself and I feel shitty for not doing so,I wasn't expecting it and I got nervous but I'm very proud of dd though for just brushing it off.

There will be more comments like that once other people are told or see her after her hair is cut, dd doesn't give a toss but I want to speak out if it happens again, what's the best way of dismissing those type of comments without being confrontational?

UptoapointLordCopper · 24/02/2015 18:40

I'm training the DC to look for things. Just thinking back to what you've done the last few hours. So far one or two successes. Hmm

hoppy Flowers Hope something more suitable comes along!

PetulaGordino · 24/02/2015 14:39

sorry/good to hear that hoppy - it saves a difficult decision if nothing else! and always good to get interview experience and feedback

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 24/02/2015 13:30

DS couldn't find a pair of trousers if he was stood in a room that was wallpapered with trousers. He also likes to pretend he can't find the bin when he is asked to put anything in it. He, too, can find the well hidden sweets and chocolates. He's only three. I'm just a skiprat so all things I need are usually on the floor, somewhere.

So, I didn't get the job. But... I didn't want it so that's OK.. Had a big think over the weekend and the commute would have been awful and although it was more money, ultimately it was a step slightly backwards. I got really positive feedback as well, which is nice.

BuffY I suggest spending £20 on a new swimsuit, the other one will miraculously appear just as you cut the tags off the new one.

FibonacciSeries · 24/02/2015 10:44

Hi everyone! I'm still in Asia (though surprisingly I haven't had many incidents of feminist rage yet) and frantically job hunting. So I can't contribute anything of interest to the pub but want to mark my place.

ChunkyPickle · 24/02/2015 09:49

We have the looking for things song ('Stand in the middle of the room, dah, dah dah, dah, daahh') which forces DP and DS1 to calmly look all around them before yelling for someone (me) to find it for them.

DS1 has selective vision (very much like selective hearing) - can't see the remote control right in front of him, but can spot the emergency mashem bribes put right at the back of the top shelf within seconds of entering the room.

I know they do see and hear the stuff though, because the moment I try to get away with anything they'll correct me (both of them have a fairly eidetic memory, unfortunately not for anything useful - they can only use the power for trivia, not for good)

PetulaGordino · 24/02/2015 09:02

"I'm not just a lazy git it's political activism"

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GibberingFlapdoodle · 24/02/2015 09:00

Hurray, I'm not just a lazy git it's political activism!

Mentioning 'lab princess', has anyone else come across the comic / tv series "Adventure Time"? I know we have a lumpyspaceprincess around. It is fun for adults, but my dd likes it because of the princesses. I live in hope that one day she'll get over it.

PetulaGordino · 24/02/2015 08:59

my only objection is when the person who mislays things doesn't even bother to look for them (including in the most obvious places) before asking "where is X?"

so now my first response after that question is "where have you looked for it?"

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 24/02/2015 08:46

GF, not at all. You're showing that finding things is a skill either sex can have!

I have a good incidental memory - if I've seen something out of place., I remember it. But if it's part of the normal backdrop, like the washing basket, I don't notice it.

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GibberingFlapdoodle · 24/02/2015 08:38

I have to admit that in our house it is me that loses things and dh is just fab at finding them. He seems to have a real 6th sense for it, I've been known to send him text messages at work asking where x is and 90% of the time he just knows.

i'm letting the side down again aren't I or hang on, am I actually building it up? Yes we can be as absent-minded as the male half of the population! Hurray I've rescued my sense of self-worth!

Bearhug's right, it will turn up when you buy another, it always works like that.

EBearhug · 23/02/2015 23:00

It will turn up as soon as you've got a new one Buffy.

Petula, one of my colleagues has 5 years and one week more service than me, we could have a massive night out on the combined contribution.

OMG, I've just realised today is actually the anniversary day. 11 years service today.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 23/02/2015 22:51
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BuffytheThunderLizard · 23/02/2015 22:49

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 23/02/2015 22:36

Has it fallen down behind the hot water tank?

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PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 23/02/2015 22:28

Excuse the apostrophe!

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 23/02/2015 22:27

He thinks he washed it? With what - on it's own or in with a load of washing? If in with a load, what happened to that load. Could it be inside any of it? In the airing cupboard, can anything go down the back of the water tank? Has he checked her swimming bag? Anyone else in the family who has a swimming bag? The drum of the machine. Yes, he's binned it