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Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

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AKnickerfulOfMenace · 07/02/2015 19:25

This is the 17th incarnation of the Feminist Pub!

Here be goats, cannons and chat on feminism and related themes. Also snacks. And booze, copious booze.

Welcome!

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PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 26/02/2015 09:08

Grin at Wolf Hall spoilers.

Annie- that says a lot about how violence against women doesn't it.Sad Perhaps choose a different blocking option next time eh?Grin Very impressed you have sorted a class so quickly after moving.

JeanneDeMontbaston · 26/02/2015 08:33

I've not seen Wolf Hall either. I keep avoiding 'spoilers' then reminding myself I am actually someone who researches this shit so I probably do know the ending just as well as anyone. Grin

annie - ouch!

That is annoying for you, but interesting, isn't it? In terms of how you see your body. I fell down the stairs the other week, and had a rather less obvious, but still fairly dramatic large black bruise over my arm, and I felt the same: must cover up. And I did notice people made quite a lot of DV 'jokes' - bizarrely, in a sort of 'ho ho, there is no man in your house, is your housemate beating you up' way. Most odd.

I am actually quite disturbed (in an interested way) but what you're pointing out.

AnnieLobeseder · 26/02/2015 08:24

My feminist rage for today. I have a black eye. Well, a purple eye. It actually looks like artfully applied purple eyeshadow! Smile

Said black eye was acquired in karate class when I blocked a punch with my face rather than using my arm or getting out of the way. A poor choice of technique, on reflection! Grin

As such, I'm quite proud of my shiner and would happily walk about showing it off.

But instead I feel compelled to hide it (by artfully applying actual purple eyeshadow to the other eye) because while NAPALT, there would certainly be a significant number of people whose first assumption on seeing it would not be that I am a martial artist, or even than I genuinely did walk into a door. And I certainly don't want anyone having thoughts like that, however wrong or however fleeting, about my lovely DH.

Bah, fuck the patriarchy and a society where DV is such a prolific problem that it is assumed (probably correctly) to be cause when any women shows visible bruising.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 26/02/2015 08:20

Lalala not listening about wolf hall Grin have booted up the fall of Anne Boleyn to read after episode 6

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 26/02/2015 07:56

I'm going to try to hide out in here for a bit.

oub - ouch! I hate it when other people make mistakes and you have to grovel for them.

OublietteBravo · 26/02/2015 07:48

FFS - just checked my email (all-day meeting yesterday, so a bit behind). Useless secretary is supposed to be finding a date for my next big meeting with all my key stakeholders. She's asked the most senior stakeholder if he can move his holiday Shock (unsurprisingly the answer was no). So new date found, and she's asked one of the other stakeholders to move a meeting that doesn't actually clash with the timing of my meeting. Looks like I have some bridge-building and apologising to do before I can get on with my day
Really, how difficult is it to organise a meeting with 3 sub-sets if people: whole meeting, 1st hour, final 2.5 hours?

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 26/02/2015 06:42

Final Wolf Hall superb. Actress who plays Anne - Claire Foy - and in fact all of them wonderful. Final shot ...

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 26/02/2015 00:02

Catching up on episode 5 of wolf hall. Avoiding MN till I've seen episode 6!

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EBearhug · 25/02/2015 23:19

It is on iPlayer and it's worth watching - www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0544j0j/suffragettes-forever-the-story-of-women-and-power-episode-1

INickedAName · 25/02/2015 22:54

I missed it cosmic, I'm hoping it's on Iplayer so I can watch it tomorrow.

CosmicDespot · 25/02/2015 22:14

Was the suffragettes programme good? I plan to watch it in the morning.

CosmicDespot · 25/02/2015 22:12

This is a nice soothing thread, if anyone's feeling the need for a bit of peace.

I didn't realise contraception is so hard to obtain in NI. Is it more easily accessible in towns? I am horrified at the idea that access to fp services is restricted because of religious dogma within the UK .

OublietteBravo · 25/02/2015 21:57

Hello. Anyone around? Awfully quiet in here tonight...

BOOM

just felt like firing the cannon - no particular reason - hope I didn't scare the goat

OublietteBravo · 25/02/2015 20:05

Enormouse Sad - that's terrible. I can't believe they make it so difficult.

Anyone else watching Suffragettes Forever! (just started on BBC2)?

Enormouse · 25/02/2015 15:40

A month after that consultation, I mean.

Enormouse · 25/02/2015 15:37

nicked it's just a consultation. Depending on where I am in my cycle, I might have to wait up to a month. Could be longer if they're as busy as they say they are.

INickedAName · 25/02/2015 15:30

That's a long wait enormous would you be guaranteed to get the implant fitted on that appointment or will it be a consultation and then another wait for an appointment for a fitting?

I've been reading the trans debate threads and links, I've not posted on them as I've been worried about using the wrong terms and it hasn't been something I've given thought to previously so I've been digesting all the different view points. But the "cis" label I don't like and I was suprised that police action hasn't been mentioned, some of the twitter stuff etc is vile.

UptoapointLordCopper · 25/02/2015 15:26

My kids threaten to call the RSPCA. Grin

BreakingDad77 · 25/02/2015 15:05

gibberingflapdoodle - I found some of the jokes this moderator collected from a kids jokes website both bizarre and funny!
badkidsjokes.tumblr.com/

Enormouse · 25/02/2015 14:54

I'm assuming the taxes are going into debates about which flag flies from stormont or which of the catchily acronymed political parties will be representing NI at the debates. Or the terrifying DOE adverts. It sure as fuck isn't going into the nhs or public transport.

gibbering I love it Grin thanks. I've also found a tumblr called calming brits.

GibberingFlapdoodle · 25/02/2015 14:44

Have you read the link from the front page about funny insults from kids , it is v funny if you want cheering up.

GibberingFlapdoodle · 25/02/2015 14:41

I bet you don't have lower taxes in NI either do you (or is the argument that the extra cash goes into extra policing) to allow for the lower standards.

It's religion isn't it. I am wonderng why it's been allowed to go on, why women put up with it, but I think I already know the answer. All you can do is get out if you have the option, I would. And complain to local politicians if you can't. Nasty situation. Flowers

Enormouse · 25/02/2015 14:39

I did find this when I was trying to find calming things online.

Smile cheered me up quite a bit

Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism
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Enormouse · 25/02/2015 14:20

I went on Twitter and on some of the more vitriolic blogs gibbering and its terrifying. Poor glosswitch and anyone else who has been targeted by this awful minority. I agree with freddie, it must be falling into the remit of cyber stalking and harassment.

I feel a bit more dejected. I double checked with Marie stopes as I thought I might have gotten it wrong and that they'd offer contraceptives on the nhs. They don't. Poor bloke on the phone, all he could do was direct me back to my gp and the family planning service.

It is definitely 30 years behind here, with certain areas another 30 years behind that.