International Woman's Day- School Assembly

captainholt i love your name

ApocalypseThen

Are you married to Tim Minchin?

Captainholt you never been raped. Stop lying

Oh, Ok then. You know best, obviously, you weirdo.

Was actually talking about the global sisterhood, who you probably think are lying too, you, know, because they are women and merely a mirror for manly reality, not humans with a reality of their own.

Yes, great post, Captain Holt.

Captain Holt, I think I may love you a little bit after that post!

OP

I think your dh should select some student to be each poster on this thread and just read the posts out.

If the OP ever dares to read this thread again:

Perhaps DP should focus on ONE aspect of inequality, e.g. wage gap, sexual objectification, violence etc.

CaptainHolt, LGBT people are still discriminated against on a large scale, especially transgender people. Western women have it VERY good these days

I am an LGBT person, and I am well aware that LGBT people are discriminated against.
I am also a woman and I know that women are discriminated against.
I am also a WOC, if you'd like to open that can of worms.

The point is, nobody has ever tried to misdirect my LGBT activism or my racial activism towards white or straight people. I am never asked how I think fighting for equal rights with white and straight people will make them feel or told that I should be more concerned about the feelings of the oppressor class. This is not the case at all with feminism.

You can tell me I have it good when the gender pay gap is closed, when we aren't being raped and sexually assaulted on a massive scale and when my sisters aren't having their genitals mutilated or being trafficked as slaves.

Their friends, mothers, sisters etc?

Oh sure, the women they own, control and patrol are different to the ones who do page 3. Women didn't invent the Madonna/whore axis.

Where is Buck McGowan when you need him?

Man in charge of feminism

I'm not so sure about Page 3 making boys objectify girls. You don't think boys/men are intelligent enough to distinguish between Page 3 girls doing a job and regular women? Their friends, mothers, sisters etc? I'm not so sure. And if that were the case, are women who show a lot of flesh/cleavage on a night out also encouraging objectification?

2 women a week are killed by their partners, and 1 in 3 women will suffer some form of sexual assault during their lifetime. It is an utter lie to say that "western women have it very good".

I think the assembly does clearly need to make the link between viewing women as objects and the high levels of violence against women, both in the UK and world wide. I think you need to explicitly explain "why this is bad" because otherwise a lot of them won't get it.

In my experience, teenage boys especially almost expect women to be displayed for their titillation- many hold the view that she is being paid for it, so what's the problem. They won't get why it is harmful, unless things are spelled out to them. And they will often silence the teenage girls who do care.

I was recently telling my dad about the gender balance of crowd scenes in movies. In general, he is socially conscious, and I think he would like to think that he isn't sexist, even if he wouldn't self define as a feminist, but he couldn't really see the problem.

The link needs to be spelled out in the most basic, obvious terms, otherwise a lot of people in the audience just won't get why it matters. And it shouldn't be explained in terms of it being bad for men, either. On international women's day at least, can it not just be about women for once?

And yet it doesn't sadden you to waste the time of feminists on here, or sadden you enough for you to do anything about Rotherham (the abuse, rape and grooming of children and teenagers is a human issue, you don't need a vagina to care, y'know)?

Byesie bye, Mr Timeandspace Waster.

"And if you think the campaigns are about daft, trivial stuff, then surely you are indifferent as to whether they succeed or not?"

No. It saddens me to see feminists putting more effort into taking away men's Page 3 than trying to get the perpetrators of the Rotherham child abuse brought to justice and other important matters.

For the benefit of posters after puffins gets deleted - she expressed her opinions of Magnetic's faux lethargic stance forthrightly.

I have started a thread in this section where he can tell us what feminists should be focusing on, for our future reference. I expect great input!

And if you think the campaigns are about daft, trivial stuff, then surely you are indifferent as to whether they succeed or not?

While I know this will be deleted....

Why don't you just fuck off to the far side of fuck, and then fuck off some more, you boring, idiotic, ridiculous excuse for a human being.

Yup, I feel better now.

Oh, you're not the campaigning sort? More the sit around and criticise sort?

I'm not really the campaigning sort tbh. But as campaigns like "No More Page 3" effect men (you know, the people who actually read it) as well as daft stuff like "ban bossy" that attempts to police our language (which is pretty bossy ironically) it's quite right that we should have a say on whether they're worthwhile.

CaptainHolt, LGBT people are still discriminated against on a large scale, especially transgender people. Western women have it VERY good these days.

so would you say the 85,000 rapes that happen a year.. We should be happy with that because people get stoned for being gay in other countries?

Because that's a bit silly, don't you think?

People who worry about campaigners against male circumcision should really shut the fuck up as they could have it worse really. They could have chopped off and sewn up, is that what we are saying?

What issues are left for you to campaign on, as you've ruled yourself out from so many that you feel don't directly affect you?

You clearly haven't read the article then as it is more nuanced than that

And clearly the amount of respect you think is due is pretty low so don't bother pretending to be polite about it