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One of the awful things about it was the justification that her mother was OK with it. That DID NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.

Weirdly his son married her mother.

YY agree you don't need anyone to make a complaint if something illegal has happened and there is evidence / witnesses then it can and should be pursued even if the main person is not saying anything.

I imagine though in a case like this with it being so well known and everything they might have asked her if she wanted to pursue it and she's said no I imagine she wants it all to go away. That's a guess though.

I would imagine also that there would be the question of why was nothing done at the time or in the intervening decades. Unlike the other people, this relationship was out in the open. Everyone knew and nothing was done, so realistically it would be difficult to explain why the police are suddenly interested.

The Mandy Smith story was absolute dynamite at the time. Pretty much the Savile story of its era. How Wyman has never been investigated for it is beyond me but he claims the police are 'not interested' (DM link):

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301867/Bill-Wyman-Police-interested-Rolling-Stones-affair-13-year-old-Mandy-Smith-claims-slept-14.html

His attempts at justifying the relationship make quite nauseating reading.

Bit surprised some of you didn't know about Mandy Smith. Even in the less questioning era it happened I recall most people , including the press, being astonished.

Artistic reputation does seem to bestow a a get out of jail card . I'm always puzzled by the way Eric Gill for example attracts so little criticism.

You may not be aware of the current trial of Roy Harper. Harper is , if you don't know, a musician who has had considerable critical acclaim and a long career from the late 60s. Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Elizabeth Fraser (Cocteau Twins) are fans. His music is gentle, English pastoral, sensitive and very beautiful.

He's famous also for being friends with Led Zeppelin. The song on LZIII "Hats off to Harper" is about him.

It has been suggested that he is dammed by his own words in a song called "Forbidden Fruit" which is about exactly what the title suggests. On the other hand Nabokov wasn't a paedophile and Eminem isn't Stan so one should not assume it is autobiographical.

Personally I will be very saddened if he is found guilty and will not stop listening to his music. I appreciate I am contradicting myself.

I've not posted links as Google is your friend if you want to know more.

So far as his music try YouTube for videos of his own version of his song "Just Another Day" and covers by Gabriel and Bush and Elizabeth Fraser which will give you an idea.

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I think it's that everyone knows he's a paedophile so where's the news IYSWIM.

The big stories are around men who are being accused of stuff for the first time.

I can understand that TBH. Not saying it's right but I can understand it.

Yes, I realise he's widely acknowledged as an active paedophile but it just feels odd that there's not more interest in covering the case given the recent high profile coverage of men like Savile, Harris and Hall.

Guess Glitter being old news is just not quite sensational enough

I've seen the Glitter trial on the news, but it may have been our local one, I can't remember. He's charge wi rate and indecent assault on young girls

Link if anyone wants to read.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31015347

Gary Glitter has served time for child sex offences hasn't he. I thought he was widely accepted as an active paedophile. And I imagine that's why not much coverage (I haven't seen any didn't know there was a trial but haven't been looking). Because everyone knows he's a paedophile who has abused children overseas.

Gary Glitter had been imprisoned for his offences.

They found 4,000 images, didn't they?

Childhood abuse can be a factor in all sorts of actions as an adult, but I think it's wrong to say that because some are serious repeat offenders, all must be.

I have been quite surprised by how low key the Gary Glitter trial has been so far. Very little media coverage

I was just talking about this the other day with DH. I thought and hoped that because of Saville, Townsend would be reinvestigated.

I saw that Gary Glitter is using the same excuse as Townsend at the moment. He's on trial and said he'd looked up images as he had been abused as a child and he was really sorry. He even cried in court.
bastard

Sorry that was about Bill Wyman.

Plus there's the whole "well it was different in the 70s/80s" argument thing.

Different for the men in that they were allowed to get away with it maybe. Not different in that these things were genuinely AOK a couple of decades ago.