Who to vote for as a feminist

That is what feminism is all about robin
It's just a very hard job to find any party representing women 'equally' which is why were are all struggling here a bit...

I don't know if anyone has the idea UKIP would be a good feminist choice, but this article should stop that in it's tracks !www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-attends-hustings-in-south-thanet--boycotted-by-greens-and-labour-for-menonly-audience-10000659.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Can women truly stand alone as a group? We are made up of so many:-young, old, mums, married, single,grannys etc,etc. We may be able to vote on single issues as a group, but at an election the party that promotes fairness and equality should get our vote?

Flora - i'll bite! Which other Green policies are 'anti-feminist'?

there isn't aggression towards people who support greens. the "aggression" came from fayyive who joined this thread to say "I'm surprised some of you are voting Green (which is whom I intend to vote for). The Greens are very liberal, I would have thought you people would prefer a draconian nanny-state society where the Government sticks its nose into anything and everything." which understandably put the backs up of those who had been contributing to the thread

i have nothing but a genuine desire to explore the different parties' policies and what impact these may have on women as a group. i may vote green if my correspondence with my own local candidate can convince me about some of their policies i am less happy about. likewise i may vote for any of the other parties on that basis

Yeah, me too, robin.

Here's a link, which anyone who doesn't believe me to have been fully discredited might like to click on:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04ykk4r

It's really good, but, hey, what do I know.

No aggression from me, just a desire for debate.

So is all the aggression aimed at MNers who are saying they might vote Green entirely motivated by a desire to stop people thinking voting Green is a sensible option for women? Is that what it's about?

Labour then?

No-one accused you of being a punter. Stop making things up.

How is the Green policy on prostitution not relevant to how to vote as a feminist?

It's not their only policy which is anti-feminist so they're definitely off the cards for me.

Will they? The Green's raison d'être is environmental issues which may or may not coincide with women's issues.

I won't vote Green because in Scotland they support the SNP. The SNP's raison d'être is breaking up the Union and as such their policies on anything else are irrelevant.

but they wouldn't be able to form a coalition with the conservatives so wouldn't have a chance to be in a coalition unless Labour get enough votes.

If Greens are in any kind of coalition, they'll put loads of women's issues on the agenda, unlike any other party. That could make a vast difference. At least those issues will be discussed, and seen by the media to be discussed, and therefore reported on.

Trouble with Green is that they won't be able to form a government, and I would prefer to vote for a party that will be able to have a chance to change things and promote womens' issues like, low pay, equality, invest in education , invest and believe in public services. All things as women we rely on. Labour

Well, that's what I wanted to discuss, robin. Didn't expect to have all kinds of random accusations of using prostitutes to be thrown at my (female) head, just for typing: "Green".

Hey, thought the questions was:what party to vote for as a feminist?

How would a completely unregulated street sex industry and a barely regulated brothel in residential premises be safe for women? Have you seen how legalised brothels treat women? And do you know how regulation is paid for? By women being fucked by men to buy licences, pay overheads and the taxman.

By women as a class, we usually mean something like "women as a class earn less than men as a class in full time work" or "women as a class suffer more from domestic violence"

Does that help?

"I suppose if you have so little consideration for women, it's not surprising you support prostitution."

Are you intentionally trying to be provocative? I support whatever model of law will be safest for those in prostitution. And I am a woman myself.

you can think and post what you want did. Do you think of yourself as a feminist? If so, what does feminism mean for you?

I'm not clear for whom it's OK to post on these threads; I certainly wouldn't define women as a class, so does that mean I may not?

Didyou

Err, not really. I'd find it hard to think about feminism without thinking that men and women as classes (or groups, if you like) have a set of different experiences because of their sex characteristics, just as i would find it hard to think of homophobia without believing that gay and straight people have some different experiences of the world because of their sexual preferences.

But if you don't think that way, I don't think you're not a feminist, I'm intrigued as to what feminism means to you though?

I would think not did. What do you think?

If a woman doesn't define women as a class, and men as a class, does that make her not a feminist, in your eyes?

In the context of feminism , yes.

I personally think the question is irrelevant as I won't be basing my decision on who to vote for after analysing their policies from the view point of feminism.

Even if I were there is clearly the scope for disagreement about whether policies are good or bad for women.