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Who to vote for as a feminist

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WorkingBling · 20/01/2015 11:27

I am really struggling ahead of the elections. I have decided that commitment to feminist principals needs to be a strong part of my voting decision making process. But I honestly am not sure this helps.

Lib dems have terrible track record and while I like nick's wife, I can't vote for a party where there's only one woman I am impressed by.

Instinctively i am more of a labour supporter but with the exception of Harriet H I honestly feel underwhelmed by their female representation and view on women.

This leaves the conservatives. There are a number of woman in the party who impress me. But Dave doesn't strike me as a man who really believes in feminist principals.

Help please. All you lovely informed women must have some thoughts.

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FloraFox · 21/01/2015 07:17

Yes it's silly to vote based on an issue you feel strongly about Hmm

PetulaGordino · 21/01/2015 07:10

Thanks tewi for that link

fayyive · 21/01/2015 03:19

Green all the way

NotTheKitchenAgainPlease · 21/01/2015 02:57

Labour for general elections.
Green / Labour for Mayoral, local and EU elections.

AWholeLottaNosy · 21/01/2015 02:27

I think to not vote Green just because of their stance on prostitution, if you agree with their other policies is a bit silly tbh.

AWholeLottaNosy · 21/01/2015 02:21

Green for the first time ever! Used to be Labour but they don't seem to stand for anything now.

fayyive · 21/01/2015 02:15

AFAIK some of the Edinburgh "saunas" are still operating without a licence. And AFAIK there have been no confirmed cases of trafficking within them

PhaedraIsMyName · 21/01/2015 01:38

I'm not sure what your correction is meant to add. I'm perfectly aware, as I'm sure most posters here are, that 2 women working out of a house constitutes a brothel.

Edinburgh Council used until recently flout this by licensing "saunas" and turning a blind eye to what everyone knew were brothels. It was a disgraceful policy which eventually became untenable because of the problems of trafficking.

I am not in favour of the Nordic model. I don't realistically think making prostitution illegal is achievable but I see no need to promote anything which makes it easier.

fayyive · 21/01/2015 01:26

"Selling sex is legal in the UK. Running a brothel, pimping and soliciting are not."

Selling sex is only legal if the prostitute is alone. If she is working within a brothel (any establishment including private homes/flats where 2 or more are selling sex) then she is committing a crime- this is also the case with the Nordic model. Under decriminalisation however, prostitutes are not arrested for working together.

Buying sexual services from another adult in GB is legal.

PhaedraIsMyName · 21/01/2015 01:14

Selling sex is legal in the UK. Running a brothel, pimping and soliciting are not.

To get back to the question if I lived in England in a seat where there was any possibility of UKIP winning I'd vote for the party most likely to make sure UKIP didn't win. Keeping UKIP out is a feminist act. Otherwise probably Labour.

As I don't live in England this will not be a concern. As I do live in Scotland then I will vote for whichever party in my constituency is most likely to defeat the SNP. That has nothing to do with feminism. I just loathe the SNP.

Amethyst24 · 21/01/2015 00:15

TeWi That is a really helpful breakdown, thanks.

Lweji · 20/01/2015 23:35

Wouldn't it be better to put gender aside and vote based on policies?

That was my point.
But as the UK votes for MPs, it might make more sense for the OP to think of her own candidates rather than the party in general.

fayyive · 20/01/2015 23:33

*the Green party

fayyive · 20/01/2015 23:32

"They are also very supportive of gay rights.
Is that supposed to be bad?
Or was it presented as counterbalance to their stance on prostitution?"

That's good, and their stance on prostitution is also good. Which is partly why I intend to vote for them.

fayyive · 20/01/2015 23:31

"so that Parliament gets the most female MPs as possible."

Is this what it's all about getting as many females as possible? Just because an MP is female doesn't mean you are going to agree with everything she says and advocates for (for example there is a massive number of female MPs and MSPs who don't support the Nordic Model).

Wouldn't it be better to put gender aside and vote based on policies?

Lweji · 20/01/2015 23:24

They are also very supportive of gay rights.
Is that supposed to be bad?
Or was it presented as counterbalance to their stance on prostitution?

Lweji · 20/01/2015 23:23

As a feminist, vote according to who presents the best propositions in many terms, including the economy, health, education, and human rights. Not necessarily on who is the most Feminist or has more women.

Alternatively, you should vote for the best female candidate in your constituency, so that Parliament gets the most female MPs as possible.

TeWiSavesTheDay · 20/01/2015 23:17

This link a bit biased (naturally, though I think theu tried not to be!) but I read it the other day and thought it was quite a good breakdown of specific feminist policies.
I was really surprised by how many really good policies Labour have relating to women, and I'm pretty sure I will vote labour this time. It'll be the first time I've voted for them.

Blog linky: thejarbelles.wordpress.com/2015/01/13/votes-for-women-2-electoral-boogaloo/

FloraFox · 20/01/2015 23:15

You do realize buying and selling sexual services is currently legal in GB? (between consenting adults indoors except for brothels)

You haven't been here long, have you?

YonicScrewdriver · 20/01/2015 22:52

I actually didn't notice it's on feminist chat...

I don't think there's a broad feminist position on cannabis.

Mitchy1nge · 20/01/2015 22:42

Thanks crispy, that is good to know and think about.

fayyive · 20/01/2015 22:12

I think there was a bit of an over-reaction to the "calm down dear" comment, but I also hope Cameron will be going out.

CrispyFern · 20/01/2015 21:47

If you disagree with a single greens policy, they decide them democratically, at the agm I believe(?) so you can join and vote against something you disagree with.

I'm not a Green Party member, and I don't have any strong views on whether prostitution should or should not be decriminalised. Just thought it might be useful to know!

jinglesprout · 20/01/2015 21:43

Another one who wishes she could vote for Stella Creasy! But I don't live in Walthamstow. Greens have the best feminist policies and women in charge. I don't know how any woman could vote for "calm down dear" Cameron.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 20/01/2015 21:38

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