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Sun Drops Page 3

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PoppyAmex · 20/01/2015 07:22

Very quietly, it would appear.

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tribpot · 22/01/2015 21:33

If it wasn't for the petitions and subsequent gloating, Page 3 would have been gone, probably a long time ago.

And presumably we would have got the vote loads sooner if we could have been a bit more genteel about it and simply waited for the nice men of Parliament to get around to it? Not their fault they had wars to prosecute and stuff like that.

As to Martin Luther King - what the hell was his problem? All that bollocks about where you sit on the bus? Just a bit of fun. No doubt they were about to desegregate the south until he came along being all uppity about it.

No I'm not comparing P3 to either of these human rights abuses but making the point that there are few disagreements where one side accuses the other of making things worse by merely saying that they disagree. It's a stupid theory and one that suggests it would be better if we would simply know our place. We don't want that place; we want a different place.

JapaneseMargaret · 22/01/2015 21:21

I'd like to think so too, but there are too many women for whom the scales simply haven't fallen from their eyes.

Hopefully this will help them slide a little bit, though.

Olbasaddict · 22/01/2015 21:08

I really hope women all over the UK who may not have seen page 3 as the insidious, woman hating shite that it is, now get angry and get behind the campaign. I can't get over how that rag tried to humiliate all women just for being women.

scallopsrgreat · 22/01/2015 21:00

"If it wasn't for the petitions and subsequent gloating, Page 3 would have been gone, probably a long time ago." What a load of bollocks! Grin The petition has only been going for a couple of years, for a start. And if you think that RM would have removed P3 if we had all gone "why thank you Mr Murdoch, how terribly kind of you" you must be pretty stupid.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/01/2015 20:59

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BruceTwee · 22/01/2015 20:53

Buffy

Maybe you're right about these boards but I read the guardian/telegraph a lot, including the articles from Jessica Valenti et al, and I was surprised that none of them really highlighted that it was a false storm. Disappointing to say the least.

Perhaps I can't 'get' it but IMHO the battle will be won when the only thing on page 3 is news (or whatever they pass as such).

PuffinsAreFictitious · 22/01/2015 20:50

Sorry Bruce, but you're wrong about what the campaign is about. Maybe you should go back and have a proper look at your sources. You could even ask questions before you tell us what we think.

Olbasaddict · 22/01/2015 20:37

I am absolutely disgusted by the actions of that revolting, evil rag. These shameful men have treated women with absolute contempt...what kind of society do we live in where women are seen as nothing but objects of mockery and there to be humiliated, with OUR bodies used as THEIR weapons to hurt us with. I am not sure my opinion of men can get any lower right now. It feels like a personal attack.

chocoluvva · 22/01/2015 20:34

Take heart everyone - the nmp3 campaign has succeeded in getting the way women are portrayed in the media debated and talked about in the mainstream media. It's a start.

So many angry, nasty men - they must be feeling threatened.

BriarRainbowshimmer · 22/01/2015 20:34

13,000 more signatures? Excellent. As I wrote on a different thread, they're really showing their true selves here, if it was any doubt that they look at women with disdain.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/01/2015 20:30

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BruceTwee · 22/01/2015 20:24

Not just that though windchime

There's F1, boxing, car shows etc etc. I'm a man and I'd be lying if I said I don't like to see attractive women at events etc. but is it necessary? No. Can we do without it? Yes of course.

I've found this whole saga rather interesting and have been left disappointed and not by the Sun, oddly enough.

I read a fair bit about the campaign and support getting rid of page 3, despite there being bigger fish to fry. I genuinely thought I understood the rationale so was left scratching my head when the radio announced that naked women were to be dropped, but they would be replaced by bikini/lingerie models instead. In my mind, page 3 wasn't being dropped at all as there would still be a vehicle for which women could still be objectified. Objectification, I believed, was one, if not THE main driver for getting rid. This seemed to make sense given one of the significant issues with feminism is the objectification of women.

How surprised I was when I started to read about all the back patting and champagne popping going on in the guardian and telegraph. Many high profile feminists and journalists were (maybe rightly) happy about the victory but I couldn't 'see it' and was left wondering about the objectification angle.

Other than TheHounds on here I've not read any articles saying that page 3 hadn't been dropped at all and that it was all a ruse, which is what I believed. All I think now is that it appears solely to be about the naked breast, which has little to do with objectification, but censorship.

jillb55 · 22/01/2015 19:48

Excellent post

EveDallasRetd · 22/01/2015 19:40

Quite Impressed that the NMP3 petition has had a record 13,000 more signatures in the last 24 hours though - something good may come out of the Sun being cunts.

windchime · 22/01/2015 19:39

I have to say, I get more vexed about the barely dressed women who appear on Soccer A.M. My son watches it for the football, but there is a piece every week featuring half naked women. Not sports stars doing their thing, but models. I just don't get it. And when we watch the darts, we have to watch the players being escorted to the stage by boobs-on-show models. Seriously, it is about time men grew up.

bellasuewow · 22/01/2015 19:26

Good marketing..hmmmm phone tapping, this awful stunt. Not for me I'm afraid I think really poorly of this they have just gone out of their way to make fun of alienate and put down 50% of the population yes a great idea indeed....

HouseWhereNobodyLives · 22/01/2015 19:23

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alsmutko · 22/01/2015 18:45

Just come over here from the NMP3 FaceBook pages. Depressing.
You do get a better class of troll in here.
And funnier responses. Hairy bollocks Weekly! Cheered me up no end. This is good though.
bells-and-whistles.me/2015/01/21/the-worrying-backlash-against-nomorepage3/comment-page-1/#comment-8549

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 22/01/2015 18:45

This is why I care:

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 22/01/2015 18:42

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 22/01/2015 18:41

Already done, thanks Norland. Anything else?

Or just here to make stupid snarky asides?

HouseWhereNobodyLives · 22/01/2015 18:36

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PetulaGordino · 22/01/2015 18:32

None in stock. Only bitter old hag served here remember?

Norland · 22/01/2015 18:21

Yes Minister got it right

www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/01/22/vintage-yes-minister-script-explains-page3-hoo-ha-perfectly/

Brilliant.

So if The Sun is read by people who don't care who runs the country as long as she has big tits and the girls don't care who ogles their tits as long as they get paid and these people number about 2 million or 1/30 of the population of GB&NI, why the hell do peeps on MN care about what 3.3% of the population think or do?

Norland · 22/01/2015 18:16

Old Thumper please.

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