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Sun Drops Page 3

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PoppyAmex · 20/01/2015 07:22

Very quietly, it would appear.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 24/01/2015 08:48

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SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 24/01/2015 08:43

NoMorePage3 has nothing to do with 'sexual repression' magnetic, haven't you got that yet?

Feminists were highly influential in the sexual revolution and women's sexual liberation ffs. Does that mean boobs should be in a daily newspaper, as the cynical marketing tool of suited, rich, white men? No.

JapaneseMargaret · 24/01/2015 08:42

... women don't

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JapaneseMargaret · 24/01/2015 08:40

It may come as a shock to you Magnetic, but men and women are not 'wired up differently' (is that the scientific term?!) with respect to visual imagery. Women respond to visual imagery as well. Honestly, are there seriously people out there who don't think women do...?

This still doesn't explain why we need tits in the news.

YonicScrewdriver · 24/01/2015 08:35

Magnetic

Men are visual, fine. Whatever turns you, or them, on.

Surely you can see that if the aim of tits in a newspaper is to arouse the readers, then they are in the wrong place? Tits are freely available on the internet, in playboy etc. They aren't news, though.

EveDallasRetd · 24/01/2015 08:23

Welcome to Mumsnet Magnetic.

The Sun markets itself as a family newspaper - it's part of its byline. It also advertises Lego, Frozen, Kids Pull-Out sections on the front page of the paper, to catch children's eyes (although it bombed out when Disney complained about the juxtaposition of a Frozen giveaway next to the word 'Paedo'

The Guides association supports the NMP3 campaign, and girls can now get 'activist' badges - they have also contributed to the many stories on the NMP3 site of underage girls feeling uncomfortable, upset and sexually harassed by P3 readers.

I preferred the stance that was taken on last nights The Last Leg - if a newspaper was started today, would it include a page of sexually provocative tits? No. Because it's 2015 and the world has changed far beyond that of the 1970s. It's time to put this tired old has-bean to bed.

Magnetic1 · 24/01/2015 08:09

*don't

Magnetic1 · 24/01/2015 08:08

Have you seen this? Page 3 girl Laura VS Green's Caroline Lucas on This Week: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0507j4h/this-week-22012015 5:43 onwards.

The point Laura made about how violence towards women is far higher in sexually repressed societies was a very good one.

She's also right about what she says about men and women being wired up differently with respect to visual imagery. Supporters of NMP3 are trying to make out this dynamic to be a bad thing, equating men being visually attracted to nude imagery as equalling this to being disrespectful to women when it really isn't.

The whole "sex object" thing is a red herring anyway. We're all sex objects. That's the driving force behind our entire existence. As if being desired sexually is a bad thing. Are the men on Heat's torso if the week not sex objects? Or Cosmo's nude centrefold? I guess we should be banning that kind of thing too.

The whole thing is hilariously lacking self-awareness. This fear of the human form and idea that The Sun is a family newspaper and the rest of it is suitable for children.

I am a feminist but I do to support this daft campaign.

chocoluvva · 23/01/2015 18:37

Very funny sketch about 'boobs' on R4 right now.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 23/01/2015 18:12

" I vote with my feet."

Yes, and you can do that.....until some twat either waves it in your face, or some twat tweets it to you dylan sharpe Hmm

Amethyst24 · 23/01/2015 18:12

He is the Dapper Laughs of the PR world, isn't he?

JapaneseMargaret · 23/01/2015 18:04

Gosh, he really doesn't get it, does he?

'I didn't mean to offend, I only meant to gloat'... Confused

How else is gloating about the 'return' of Page 3 by their PR rep going to be taken?

What a silly little boy.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 23/01/2015 17:57

The only mildly 'threatening language' was from men in reply to the tweets he sent. None from the campaign or women. Making out that women are doing what men are actually doing seems to be a bit of a feature of misogynistic whiny manbabies of late.

PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 17:50

Errol noooooo to archers shower scenes! Cringe cringe and jolene was vomit-inducing afterwards!

EveDallasRetd · 23/01/2015 17:36

It works!

(Strangely his TL showed no death threats, but I suppose they could have been sent by DM)

EveDallasRetd · 23/01/2015 17:33

I'll see if I can find a link Sauce

SauceForTheGander · 23/01/2015 17:13

Eve no I didn't - was he made to apologise to those he tweeted? He really is whiny piss baby. Fun seeing him on twitter though. Really is a new & novel approach to Public Relations that's for sure.

YonicScrewdriver · 23/01/2015 15:49

But also lots of publicity for the NMP3 campaign, which probably has lower brand awareness than The Sun - so yay!

ErrolTheDragon · 23/01/2015 15:25

Great, isn't it? The Sun yo-yos on P3, while it's ostensibly more respectable big brother The Times reports the 'news' and (from what I heard yesterday on the radio) writes jokey editorials about it. Hmm

I much prefer my news via a medium which features full-frontal male nudity ... Radio 4! Grin (PC Burns in the shower on The Archers a few days back)

BadgersRetreat · 23/01/2015 15:17

This made the morning news in Canada this morning Shock

SkaterGrrrrl · 23/01/2015 15:17

BINGO!

Sun Drops Page 3
SkaterGrrrrl · 23/01/2015 15:12

" I vote with my feet."

Its not about whether you read it, or I read it. Its the fact that Page 3 is here, in the midst of our society, read by millions and available in cafes, left on bus seats and park benches, reinforcing the idea that women are sex objects.

Its existence harms all women, whether you personally buy it or not.

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