God almighty. 44 year old teacher has sex with 16 year old pupil and is spared prison

lemonmuffin clearly believes that 44 year old men are less responsible for their behaviour, than vulnerable 16 year old girls.

lemonmuffin is a goady piece of work

best ignored

ive read the comments and they seem reasonable.

Poor old Julie has got it wrong again.

Well obviously we gave her a #NotNorman award

We'd be really interested to hear from anyone (like your friend BarbarianMum) who fancied a teacher who behaved with professionalism and integrity like your chemistry teacher. Just so that we can show all these idiots out there that men who are teachers who teach teenage girls, are capable of making responsible choices if by chance one of those teenage girls pursues them.

It's incredible that judges are still making remarks like these in this day and age.

Housewherenibody, yes I know that. I was talking from the perspective of my friend who thought it was perfectly okay for a man to have sex with a 15 year old. I did tell him the details of that case which was a planned drugged rape. I also told him that it is not okay for adults to have sex (legally rape) with 15 year old girls because they are girls mot adult women and there is a big difference in knowledge and power between the two.

It just unbelievable. Shocking. Legalised rape. Great.

If my husband had sex with anyone, let alone a 16 year old, in the week I miscarried I would regard that as an exacerbating factor not a mitigating one.

YYY

Absolutely totally and utterly gross disgusting and wrong. . . .

This judge needs serious looking at, sadly, and in particular in relation to the Ched Evans the rapist thread I wasn't all that surprised that it was a female judge. Shocking how many women hold similar views

Hugely insulting to all men as well as being the most obvious bit of victim blaming I've seen in a while.

FFS I mean if he can't 'control' himself around a 15 year old what's he doing in the job???

And yes I would say the same if the genders were reversed.(A question that was raised elsewhere)

A girl in my year at school "dated" our geography teacher for 2ish years and eventually married him (at 18 years and a few days). They got divorced about a year later because he was an emotionally immature and stunted individual. Guess that's why he persued relationships with much younger girls.

I teach in a secondary school for boys with social, emotional and behavioural difficulties. 95% have serious and genuine issues with boundaries/personal space due to abuse/neglect. Some are "trying it on" and some genuinely don't realise/have never been taught what are appropriate limits (one (extreme)example: they have married parents who live together, the father beats the mother regularly but their mother is a sex worker who has clients while the child is home. This teaches a child very confusing lessons about how you treat those you "love" and those you work with/want things from). It's our (the whole staff's) job to do what we can to change that; not be complicit in the abuse!!

If my husband had sex with anyone, let alone a 16 year old, in the week I miscarried I would regard that as an exacerbating factor not a mitigating one.

I suspect the judge identified with the professional more than the troubled girl, hence her being a woman didn't give her particular insight into the case.

I have been pretty disgusted by reactions of my friends, who consider themselves free thinking individuals, yet who defend men having sex with 15 year olds, such as in the Polanski case or that teacher who ran to France with a fifteen year old. I despair , I really do.

So the case cannot be reviewed.

Can the judge's position be reviewed? Her judgement, core to her job, is seriously questionable. Any chance of removing her?

As someone who was abused by a teacher, this horrifys me. Poor girl.

Apparently they can't review the sentence because the offences aren't covered in the Act that allows the review.

Speechless, just speechless

What is the fucking POINT if slimy toads like this can just slither back into society with barely a slap on the wrist

Meant both stories, not both people in the debate.

Saw this yesterday and was speechless, my 9 year old dd had more understanding of why it's wrong than the judge.

Just caught the back end of the man and woman debating sexism on This Morning, both have made me feel uncomfortable and angry.

Another ropey case? forourdaughters.co.uk/index.php/tag/joanna-greenberg-qc/