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Feminist Pub 16: where the Bluestockings develop armoured stockings to deal with the thousand paper cuts

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FibonacciSeries · 14/01/2015 12:39

Carry on.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 23/01/2015 10:39

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HouseWhereNobodyLives · 23/01/2015 10:27

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AnnieLobeseder · 23/01/2015 10:10

Oh, and brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

AnnieLobeseder · 23/01/2015 10:10

It sounds like you have a sensible plan in place, House. I understand the frustration of having your life on hold - I'm there too at the moment, though for different reasons. But as you say, each step you take towards putting things in place for your New Improved Life helps you to feel a bit less helpless and stagnant.

Right, time to write a cover letter for Job Application 2 of the morning.....

HouseWhereNobodyLives · 23/01/2015 09:53

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YonicScrewdriver · 23/01/2015 09:40

House, I think I would stay but i would start the concrete background steps now if I hadn't already - update my CV, research new firms, do a bit if networking, do any training is possible, talk to recruiters etc.

PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 09:35

you're absolutely right, which is (one of the reasons) why it must be so frustrating when there are delays and things drag on

HouseWhereNobodyLives · 23/01/2015 09:22

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PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 09:02

hmm yes i see what you mean

HouseWhereNobodyLives · 23/01/2015 08:58

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PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 08:54

house what makes you feel worse right now - the idea of still doing your job in six months' time, or the idea of slogging through applications and interviews over the next couple of months?

PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 08:52

eek that doesn't sound very far away!

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AnnieLobeseder · 23/01/2015 08:27

So, we have slightly found an interim house to rent and are moving over half term.

Now to find that job...

PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 08:08

I Just walked through the union and the sexual assault poster is no longer there. Ooh

PuffinsAreFictitious · 23/01/2015 07:56

Yes, Buffy, check. Getting your words right is vair vair important, you never know, someone might write endless posts on this thread as well demanding you clarify. Hmm

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 23/01/2015 07:44

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UptoapointLordCopper · 23/01/2015 07:19

Yeah, women, stop being victims, don't you know?

We had a women's room in uni. Quite a big space. I never really used it, but there were sofas and showers. If I recall rightly there were even beds where you can have a lie down. Is that a bit odd? Maybe I was hallucinating.

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PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 00:17

The university I work in has some sort of campaign going on in the student Union, I noticed today

"Don't be a victim"

Sigh

It has all the usual victim-blaming stuff re sexual assault.

Though it also includes advice for avoiding burglary etc. One suggestion of which (on a completely non-feminist topic) included "leave your television on when you go out" Hmm

Which is in conflict with all te other planet- and money-saving advice that is plastered everywhere else

PetulaGordino · 23/01/2015 00:13

That is interesting kickass. I went to a boys' school for sixth form and we had a girls' common room (in addition to the junior common room for everyone) as there were about 30 girls and 250 boys across the two years - it was a few sofas, tables and chairs and a kitchen area and loo. The school felt it was important that the girls had a private space (if any boys had entered there would have been serious sanctions). However with so few girls there were only a few single-stall girls' loos dotted around the school so few other private spaces

A handful of boys complained this was sexist. We told them we had a jacuzzi and full-time masseuse in there Grin

kickassangel · 23/01/2015 00:03

I am SO in favor of unisex toilets. There's a whole feminist argument about toilets/bathrooms etc (both public and private).

BUt - one serious point is, that the more public/open a place is, the safer it is. So unisex toilets actually make it LESS likely that a "perv" can spy on/abduct/assault children, whereas many people recoil at the idea because, you know, men would lurk there and do nasty things. The opposite is true.

However - toilets are often the safe haven of teenage girls who want to have a private discussion without boys listening in & taking over, so perhaps there's need to be somewhere for that - or we could educate teens to respect each other's privacy.

VampyreQueen · 22/01/2015 17:06

  • politely declines both gin and coffee but pours a Vodka.

Im not sure that I believe in the concept of a soul so no idea if I have one. I am a vegan though, if that makes you feel any better. Wink
on the subject of toilets, my uni had unisex ones. Seemed to work for everyone.

EBearhug · 22/01/2015 15:19

When I was at uni, we quite often used the cubicles in the men's loos in the SU bar, because there was always such a queue for the women's, and the men were usually only using the urinals. (I wonder if they changed the toilet numbers when they rebuilt it?) I don't remember there being many complaints from the men, though to be fair, there are quite a few evenings I spent there where my memory was severely inhibited by alcohol.

I also don't remember if I had an actual point to make.