sorry/thank you

Look, tegetega, sexist ads, just for you: www.buzzfeed.com/robynwilder/ridiculously-sexist-and-racist-adverts-from-the-present-d#.qwVoaXY9g

I can Googlez too:

www.google.co.uk/search?q=sexist+adverts+2014&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rx6vVN3mBZLW7Abvw4DIAQ&ved=0CCAQsAQ#imgdii=_

Hey, you know what?

You're TOTALLY right.

We shouldn't be feminists! Hey, hey ladies, over here! This man here has posted a link. Lets read it, and have a jolly good think about our foolishness.

Silly us, wanting some kind of equality after all these centuries.

Now, let's just pack up our collective hivemind and go home.

@PuffinsAreFictitious

So you admit you can not find a recent example of an advert like OvenPride which is sexist against women. You have to go back decades to find one.

Just as I thought.

Oh do bore off.

It must be very depressing being you, tegetega.

A feminist is asked for an advert which is sexist against women. She posts something from decades ago. ha

No wonder most of the population want nothing to do with feminists or feminism.

The fact most women refuse to call themself a feminist says a lot.

thought as much.

Pbp, can be safely ignored.

"I know what you all think"

Excellent. Wish I was psychic on a mass scale. Must be so useful.

Another man telling us what we think.

No. Who are you and why should we?

I know what you all think about male victims of DV. You think if a woman hits a man, the man must have done something to deserve it. Either that or the patriarchy is to blame somewhere. Adult women must never be held responsible if they hit someone.

Am I right?

"Why don't you ask us what we think about (a) false accusations of rape, (b) domestic violence against men, (c) adverts that stereotype men as household bumblers or incompetent fathers, (d) whether we in fact believe that all men are rapists?"

Go on then, what do you think of false accusations of rape. And spare me the crap about how they "don't exist" or how "rare" they are. Tell me what you think about the false accusations of rape that happen and how the victim might be affected.

*"I would imagine non-feminists intentionally avoid speaking to those who suggest their sons/brothers/husbands/male friends etc pigs or simpleton idiots who only think with their penis or rapists

Wat"*

@gincamparidryvermouth
Non-feminist women generally do not hate men and boys. They often have husbands/sons/brothers/male friends they love and care about. Try and understand why they might not like you or want to talk to you.

Do you have any examples that aren't from ~1950?

I understand grimble. Love this: Basically, I am too old and jaded to worry about twats

Grays: I can understand your concern and it may be because I am a (very) old feminist who has seen what you describe now since the early 1960s that I cannot get exercised by it very much. We have better things to do than try to convince people who are not well disposed to feminism in the first place and therefore take these clowns' views as real that feminism is not like that. Because they want to believe that it is like that and these views are simply confirmation. Basically, I am too old and jaded to worry about twats.

Ha! I would love to but I'm just an EFL teacher. Funnily though you are so right - my engineering company students are totally rubbish at the activities which require imagination but give them a diagram to label and explain and they're fighting over the pens.

I love metaphors and analogies, so much so that it annoys me if they're slightly off. And I like explaining things. Now repeating myself

Put it into a thesis or research paper Bertie. I love conceptual sketches in research papers. I am very a very visual person because I am an engineer I guess but I totally lack imagination because I am an engineer I guess

It is as good as any conceptual drawing I have seen and I haven't even seen it yet.

It works for any kind of privilege really. It's hard to see privilege when you have it. So in fact I can't credit only those two conversations, but also one particular friend (who is black, if it's relevant) opening my eyes to white privilege, which she shouldn't have had to do.

it came to mind when I was angry at DH because he couldn't see something and then he said he was upset that I saw the world as "such a hostile and awful place" and I suddenly realised it wasn't THAT he wasn't seeing, it was everything, and had a flashback to a conversation with one of the Postgrad students who was running our seminars when I was at uni and she said that whenever she discussed feminism the women immediately get it and the men never believe it.

Maybe I'll try and scribble it down as a cartoon or someone more talented than me at drawing can.

Jeez Bertie that is excellent, a really clear and appropriate image. I wish I had your imagination.

Agree Gray's. Great analogy Bertie.