Ched Evans signed by Oldham Athletic

Sorry, DH didn't think she was a slut, just that CE and she went to a hotel room then he raped her.

My dh ventured to suggest that he was possibly not guilty (because "he's appealing") and was subjected to a 10 minute tirade from me about the facts.
He emerged from the ensuite waving a white flag.

Puffins, it's what DH thought too - if you've literally read nothing about the case other than a "CE, guilty of rapimg a 19 year old woman in a hotel last April" type headline then it's easy (in fact, I'm not even sure DH knew CM was there until I told him)

How? When even on his odious website, it doesn't make that claim?

It's just the assumption that she was a slut and deserved it isn't it?

The case came up on the TV in the canteen at work, and I said something along the lines of, "Good, glad he's not going to be playing"

This led to an interesting discussion.

The number of people who think that she went back to the hotel room with both of them was astounding. That because she was drunk, she didn't exactly ask for it, but she should have known better. So, I outlined, gently the actual facts and some people saw it slightly differently. Then someone asked if I was one of them feminists. Yes, yes I am. The silence was deafening. Work might not be quite so friendly anymore... meh.

Yes LeBear: she boasted about how she had done a lot of reading on it. She couldn't possibly have read the evidence or the appeal judge's evidence or she would have known it was not a he said/she said rape case and she would have known why the two verdicts were different and that CE convicted himself by his own words.

It is so irritating when a person on national TV makes such a confident statement that is totally wrong and not even the chairman picked her up on it, let alone the other members of the panel.

I think you are right about her source.

What I hated most about watching Julia Hartley-Brewer was her repulsive (and it really was repulsive) sense of pride in the inane - and actually stupid - remarks she was making. Referring to the "sisterhood" in such a way that you could practically see the air-quotes, and smirking at what a Cool Girl she is. And I was desperate for someone to pick her up on the factual inaccuracies she made despite claiming to have read extensively about the case. If she had, she would know why one of the men was convicted and the other not. I'm guessing her extensive reading consisted of the Ched Evans website?

Ched Evans didn't give a shit who his victim was. She was just someone to fuck.

Great post Basil. You've really articulated the planned nature of rape, by the rapist even if the victim hasn't been singled out until just before the rape. In fact that just shows how women are interchangeable objects to a rapist.

Fantastic blog basil. I hope that the high profile nature of this story makes more people discuss the issues you write about so eloquently. Dh and I have discussed the case and the related issues around consensual sex with our 13yo ds. I've discussed my views with friends who don't necessarily share my views 100% and hope I've provoked some thoughts in them.

I've just done a post about Julia Hartley-Brewer's rape awful comments.

In a ranty mood this week

Just wanted to add this. Apparently Vince Cable's aide has said that CE is 'probably not guilty'. WTFF??

www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/09/vince-cables-aide-ched-evans-probably-not-guilty

On radio 4 some Prof who has worked with the Hillsborough familes was aware that that of the ones he had dealings with they had been offended by being associated with the case.

Check out Julia Hartley-Brewer on last night's QT on BBC 1, doing a Judy Finnigan and probably about to get a large bucket of hate poured over her.

Also, he can't really say whether the people hounding his victim on social media are his supporters or not, can he? I'm sure they'd maintain that they are.

He is currently tweeting from the account set up while he was in prison and run, then, by his gf and sister.

Some of the worst tweets are from the accounts of his sister, mother and girlfriend. The website is in his name and has statements from him on it. His cousin has a conviction for naming the victim.

So while he can't speak for all the trolls some are very close to him.

I wonder is someone has misinterpreted a tweet or something along the lines of, "how would you like it if this happened to your daughter" as being a threat to rape?

Disclaimer (after mass misunderstanding on other thread): THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL MUSING.

Statement from GMP regarding threats made...

Greater Manchester Police has released a statement clarifying its position on alleged threats made towards Oldham Athletic board members, saying it was not investigating any threats and had not received any official complaints.

A spokesman said: "Greater Manchester Police would like to make it explicitly clear it is not currently investigating reports of either death threats or threats of a sexual nature made to anyone associated with Oldham Athletic FC.

"No such reports have as yet been made to Greater Manchester Police.

"The force has received a small number of complaints about comments made on social networking sites, however none of these relate to any direct threats made to individuals or their families. Advice has been given that if anyone wished to report these comments as potential criminal offences they can do so and we will act accordingly. However no such reports have as yet been made."

I haven't seen any response from the Hillsborough Families Support Group yet.

Bet the Hillsborough families will be thrilled to learn that.

Makes sense, bd. After all, 7 weeks ago they said they weren't considering CE.

Gordon Taylor is a ( unpronounceable...)

It would seem so, Trojan.

Just those white feminists in London, it seems. So not me either then.

Gordon Taylor has excelled himself by suggesting that Ched's plight is comparable to the Hillsborough families'. Just when I thought that Evans was the worst we have produced for a while in the UK......

I have never heard the users of ARRSE described as 'white London feminists' before.

Or is it somehow different when posts on their Ched thread condemn high profile employment of rapists and debunk myths around this case?