Gendered clothing

'Unisex' clothing tends to be boys clothing.

I have boys and girls. I find the colour palette slightly more limiting for girls, and a higher amount of impractical stuff for girls (shoes are particularly bad, with practical school she's being very much 'boys shoes'). There are a lot of shit boys clothes about too and smart outfits are a bit harder for boys (it's getting better though).

I also find that often girls clothes are perfectly practical but are slagged off by the tree climbing brigade. You can 'run' and 'play' and 'climb trees' perfectly well in a skirt, even if it is pink.

By making children's clothes 'gender neutral" I suspect the result would be children's clothes = boys clothes. Boys can dress like men and girls can also dress like men, even if they don't want too. As the mother of an extremely girly girl it is frustrating to see the negativity about girls who make the choice to like pink. Yes, I get that they are marketed too, and they are conforming to convention, but nobody takes the piss out of a little boy who wants a Thomas the Tank engine jumper, or an adult man who wears a suit, so why are girls who make a choice to dress the way they are told girls dress, singled out for wearing silly girly girl clothes in impractical colours that you can't play in? It's astonishingly similar to the way adult women feel pressure to conform to femininity, and then are mocked for ruining their feet with high heels, ruining their nails with acrylics, ruining their hair with extensions, taking too long to get ready, spending too much on cosmetics etc.

I'm a butch woman. I don't wear heels, I rarely wear make-up. I have short hair. I shop in the teenage boys section or the casual end of topshop. I wear suits with ties and brogues. This is not unisex, it's masculine, and it means I am judged every bit as harshly as the acrylic nail and extensions set. Any point I make about feminism can be torn down because I am wearing the 'wrong' shoes, or I'm an 'ugly feminist' or a 'dyke'. I wear a dress and heels then I'm a frivolous airhead who has sold out to the patriarchy. Wear whatever the hell you like, you can't win, because ultimately, it's not the cut of your clothes that's causing the problem.

Mums complaining I think you have to be an excellent shopper to sieve through the gender centred colours. Just be determined.

Among my kids I have two girls and I have never had any problems finding them clothes to play in that were practical. Their winter jackets are usually snowboarding jackets as they are waterproof, light and trendy. We often bought clothes in black, red and royal blue that all the kids could wear but one of my DDs has always loved sequins and sparkles (like her Nan) and has not been deprived of them.

My DH likes to dress up the most in our house and has very flamboyant clothes. He often makes his own and for the kids.

I have a little girl who I love to dress her in beautiful dresses everyday. I dress her the way I wanted to be dressed when I was little. Everybody comments about how beautiful and smart she looks.

I buy cloths for her in different colours. They are not all pink. Some have pink flowers.

I would love to consider myself a feminist. I bet someone like you would not see it that way.
I love high heels, bras which I cannot live without because not only do they look good but they also help hold up my gg cup size breast for comfort. U didn't enlarge it. It's natural. I always have men staring at them.

I believe in equality and equal pay . I believe in freedom to do what we want and feel like as long as is within the boundaries of the law.
If being baked is what you like then so be it.

Some feminist act like religious fundamentalist who are extremist. Terrorising any body who wants to pick and choose what fits them and their lifestyle.

I don't really care for gender neutral cloths. Cloths should be made in all colours.

Segregated boy/girl clothing really irritates me - they're children, doing (hopefully) the same activities, why do we need to dress them according to gender?

My friends who have girls have really objected to the sea of pink they face when shopping for girls (lilac if you're lucky) and the saccharine slogans like "little princess" etc. And the clothes that make them look like mini-women - "fur" coats and sparkly vest tops, plus completely impractical suede boots.

Boys clothes I've found are often restricted to blue/grey/brown, also with stupid slogans ("I'm a little monster") or pictures of cars/trains/other stereotypical boys interest pictures.

There are some shops out there that are slightly better, but you have to search hard for them IME.

I think there are good practical reasons for children's clothes being gender neutral, I have 2DDs then a son, we have boxes of heavily gendered clothes sitting in the attic that I can't get away with putting him in (and he was wearing pink cords and tights today so I'm using as many of his sisters clothes as I can). If more childrens clothes were gender neutral (as they were when I was a child) they could be reused more.

The over sexualisation of young girl's clothes is another, I was looking for a denim skirt for DD1(5) last year, NEXT had a denim skirt that had a hole over the crotch. Because obviously everyone wants to see my 5 year old's knickers. Agree with the OP about the pinkification of girl's clothes, and the impracticalities of female clothing generally.

Disclaimer- I haven't looked at the website you mentioned, I will do though.

Is it coming from the PoV that girl's clothes should basically mean whatever clothes a girl is wearing at that moment in time? I know that when I was a child, there was a much larger colour palette available to parents when buying girl's clothes, and that the use of hand me down clothes was more prevalent which probably meant that apart from really obviously gendered clothes, like suits and dresses, children just wore children's clothes IYSWIM? This isn't to say that boys can't wear dresses or girls can't wear suits should the mood take them either.

Looking at children's clothing now, it does seem that pink/pastel colours are all that are available to girls, which must make buying choices difficult for parents of girls if their DDs are not the type to stay clean and tidy, getting dirt out of light coloured clothing can be a bugger. Boys clothes OTOH tend to be either darker (so don't show dirt) or have brighter colours (which hide ground in grubbiness more easily).

I'm not sure that a more unisex colour palette and clothing styling would be a bad idea, not particularly from a feminist PoV, but from a purely practical PoV. This isn't to say that dressing in a feminine way is always necessarily bad, just that for a lot of people it can be impractical. Unisex clothing probably wouldn't always work for adults due to the differences in body shape.

It's not really an ultimate feminist ideal but wouldn't it be great if all children's clothes were practical for play, hard wearing, warm or cool as dictated by season and with colours and patterns for all!

I don't think the ideal is that we are all the same. Rather that our differences do not define or hold us back. So wearing a pair of high heals or pair of steel capped worked boots says nothing about us apart from shoe choice. However I don't think that level of freedom is possible under a patriarchal system with strict gender socialisation. So to get to a point where pink isn't reserved for girls requires an overhaul of our current system and with that would come many more important changes than just clothing.

I don't want to dress like a man. I like being feminine. I'm still a feminist .

I don't get why it's a bad thing for boys and men to dress like boys and men and for women and girls to dress like women and girls.
I don't want to look like a man, and I don't want people to think my girls are boys thank you very much.

Really? This is truly boring. The "ultimate feminist ideal" is to let people be free and not create a new uniform for them