"Mummy I like you better when you wear makeup"

With the pink pens I see your point and as others say you can gently steer him

But the make up ? Brutal child's honesty there I am afraid !!!!!

Kids are basically as shallow as fuck. There are various studies out there demonstrating that children mostly choose their friends according to how physically attractive they rate them up until the age of 9 or 10. Later on they start to develop more mature and empathic realtionships. This isn't sexist - girls are equally, if not more likely to do this with other girls, because they are conditioned to be aware of the importance of 'good looks'.

BTW, I do encourage my 18 year old DS to wear a discreet bit of concealer on any humungous zits he might have lurking when he goes out. But then he has ASD and isn't terribly clued up about teen cultural norms.

I Meant by 'he's hardly sexist' hardly here is used sarcastically, like he's clearly not.

But since you asked, I was talking about a small child with severe learning disabilities. Doubt an adult would talk how I quoted.

I don't really find it sad, I like wearing makeup, for me, no one else, many of my male friends also wear makeup, some of my female friends don't. DS likes people to be the same as they usually are. With me that's makeup, my best female friend without any, my best male friend with some makeup.

Badonna, just report. Honestly, they're getting really bloody dull.

I typed ugh because IMHO the pics I saw were very unflattering compared to the ones where they are wearing make-up. So it's no wonder the kid in the OP said what he said.

My opinion is more common than you think. I'm just honest.

"Weirdo."

Name-calling already. I guess debating isn't your strong point.

Cross post. Sorry.

Did you just type "ugh" because you were upset at having to see pictures of women without makeup on?

Oh, yes. We are all cheating when we wear makeup so we can go out of the house without making poor men "ugh" or whatever.

Weirdo.

Just to reiterate for you, the rest of the paragraph....

Women aren't there to be decorative, if you don't find women who don't wear make up attractive, then I suggest you don't look at them.

HTH

I'm going to just say what most people won't- some women just are not attractive without make-up.

Ooooh, I don't think you need to worry that no one will say that. After all, it's the message that women and even small girls get every single day from every single media outlet.

Most women look just fine with or without make up. Women aren't there to be decorative, if you don't find women who don't wear make up attractive, then I suggest you don't look at them.

"Ever heard a child say "girls don't… girls can't… boys are best" or similar? If that's not sexism, what would you call it?"

That's because it's a learned behaviour.

For example I've witnessed my nephew in a toy store jump into a bright pink toy car, only for his mum's reaction to be a horrified "get out of that! that's for girls!".

And another time he went to drink out a pink cup only for his mum when she noticed to look horrified and take it and replace it with a blue one.

I'm going to just say what most people won't- some women just are not attractive without make-up.

Young children are generally very honest and sometimes they help point out very obvious things adults won't.

It's like the Emperor's new clothes- he walked around naked while all the adults praised him for his beautiful gold clothes, until a child pointed out he was really naked.

So rest assured your son is not "sexist" or "misogynist" he is just honest.

On the make-up thing: my 12 yr old DD says she prefers my (long) hair down and this is because she perceives me to be more relaxed and nicer when my hair is down. She may have a point. When my hair is up I am cooking/cleaning/whatever and probably am a bit of a harridan. Perhaps when you have make-up on you are meeting friends/feeling more relaxed/something???

Yep.

Ever heard a child say "girls don't… girls can't… boys are best" or similar? If that's not sexism, what would you call it?

I have heard that, yes. I've also heard girls say 'girls are better than boys'. And what? It's just a childish competitiveness, like... 'my dad can beat up your dad'. It's not sexist at all. You're over-analysing it and using it to suit your own ends.

I am quite rational, yes. I'd never put makeup on to make myself look better, and then complain when someone - especially a young boy - says that I look better with it on! Don't talk to me about 'cultural influences'... that's just idiocy!

Children are very honest. Maybe you just do look better with make up.

Do you disagree that it's odd to say that a young child is 'hardly sexist'?

Do you disagree that getting upset that your son likes how you look with the makeup that you yourself put on is normal?

It's unhealthy if you ask me, and harmful.

There's a troll here? Where?

If you're talking about me, I'm just making some points.

he's hardly sexist at all

Are you talking about a grown man or a small child?

DS says when I've put my makeup on "ah, you back to be mummum gen"

But he's used to seeing me with makeup not without, so he doesn't like it when I'm not 'mum'

DS loves dresses and dolls as well, he's hardly sexist at all. He just likes me being the same as I always am