Feminist Pub 15: The Bluestocking hangs up its, err, stocking and hopes for a chatty Christmas and a Feminist New Year

It was my 12 year old (half) brother who posted, he probably didn't think or realise. I'll have a word with my dad about it later, but not now, he's just lost his mum. Slightly upset that nobody has actually tried to contact me directly, but I suppose I am in another country and hardly anybody has my phone number, so it's not exactly the easiest thing. I don't know whether my sister knows, I suppose I'll find out tomorrow.

Have also just realised I can't fly back for the funeral because my passport has expired. I suppose it saves the £250 it would have cost in flights. I suppose at least I have an excuse not to deal with crappy family??

Sorry Bertie, that's really sad. And a crappy way to find out

Just stuff like "Oh I never asked her about..." and the fact I know she wanted a picture from our wedding (nearly a year ago) and I never got around to getting one printed and sent, I had resolved to definitely do it for her birthday in a couple of weeks, and now it's too late. :(

I will go to bed soon, and I have a busy day planned tomorrow so won't be sat brooding on it, I'm just more sad than I thought that I would have been.

Thanks, sorry for disappearing, have been burying myself in TV a bit. We weren't especially close and she was nearly 90 but was just a bit of a shock.

Oh Bertie

So sorry, that's really awful

Bertie

Sorry for your loss Bertie

Bertie, so sorry.

Bertie

I do facebook to share photos with friends and relatives. But there are always people posting snake-oil type things - drink cucumber juice to cure leukemia, eat something-or-other to ensure healthy liver, shower and wash your hair in the correct order to avoid certain death etc. The latest claim that a certain way to drink fucking water will cure cancer in 6 months.

Bertie, I'm so sorry for your loss

Oh, I'm so sorry. That's rotten.

It was nothing, really! Just someone posted a comment about "Yay equalism, feminism is wrong, why are women so much better" and I replied "That's not what feminism is, but okay" and then felt shaky about it.

But I was just feeling generally off this afternoon, and then I found out that my Granny has died. Via facebook :(. So that explains that feeling then...

I only do Facebook to see photos of my friends' kids. And the friends without posting exotic holiday photos. I don't do Facebook arguments.

kickass your mum sounds hilarious.

Bertie - what was the argument about?

I get less shaky arguing than I used to. I do get the overwhelming sense of futility on occason, though.

Callindana deserves a medal certainly!

Conspiracy theories can be really funny sometimes. Not when it's life-threatening though. Are you familiar with Bad Science?

I don't do facebook, apart from the privacy issues I wouldn't have the patience. I'm not that bored!

And Lighting, having skimmed that thread, I'm not surprised you need a stiff one!

Urgh, just had to defriend someone else for posting that Big Pharma are out to kill us and people should be curing their cancer with lemon juice and baking soda. No, I clean my bath with lemon juice and baking soda. To pretend it's medicine will kill people.

FFS! My tolerance for FB idiocy is obviously low today, but I just don't need my FB feed to be making me angry!

Oh yes I do definitely. Even with DH when I know it's not an issue.

They were on this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2263893-Majority-verdict-FFS

Large for Lightning

Do you get shaky in other confrontational situations? We're all civilians (mostly), socialised and trained to be 'nice'.

Just been seeing Yves' links to stories about people not helping in violent / dangerous situations. Appalling. I'm trying to understand it, I can understand an immediate shock reaction, but really...

My first time in the pub, can I get very drunk now? I've been a bit bored lately.

Aaargh, can someone please pour me a stiff drink and tell me why I get so shaky when I get involved in feminist arguments on facebook? It's almost as though I'm scared of people thinking I'm a... feminist

My mum thinks that when men and women work they should do equal shares of housework, but she believes that women should be a housewife like her, so we end up with conversations that go something like this:
Her: Have you done the ironing for this week?
Me: I don't iron
Her: What about DH's work shirts?
ME: Well, he doesn't really have those kind of shirts, but if he wants one he knows where the iron is.
Her: Well, yes, of course, er, of course he should do his own, er, yes. Well. Erm ... How's DD doing at school?

That post would make me angry too. Dp does a lot of that list, some is delegated to dd1 our cleaner, some I do it's mostly dp.

My mum thinks I've done well choosing a man who does his share of the housework and childcare without complaining. She says she wishes she'd done the same, but she's grown quite fond of my dad anyway. To be fair to my dad, he's always done a lot more of the childcare and housework than most men of his generation, but still not as much as dp does.