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109 women prosecuted for false rape claims in past 5 years

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AWholeLottaNosy · 01/12/2014 19:52

This made me so angry. The thousands of women that can't get justice for being raped due to 'lack of evidence' yet the CPS thinks it's ok to pursue these women for reporting their rape to the police. We all know how incredibly hard it is to report a rape and the facts speak for themselves, aprox 85,000 rapes a year, 5-15% are reported, of those reported rapes, only 6% get a conviction. This is a fucking travesty but it seems like it's easier to get a conviction for a false rape allegation than get a conviction for a devastating, life altering crime? Something is very wrong here...

www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/01/109-women-prosecuted-false-rape-allegations

Oh and last thing, false rape allegations are aprox 2% of all reported allegations, similar to other types of crime.

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 03/12/2014 19:39

Then answer my question. It's really simple, what punishment did she get after her trial?

MyEmpireOfDirt · 03/12/2014 19:38

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marnia68 · 03/12/2014 19:38

Puffin- so rich and famous people deserve what they get? Your post brings absolutely nothing to the debate.

YonicScrewdriver · 03/12/2014 19:37

Well would you, Narnia?

MyEmpireOfDirt · 03/12/2014 19:37

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 03/12/2014 19:36

btw? Given how hot the CPS seems to be on punishing women in these situations. What did his accuser get in terms of punishment after her high profile trial for perjury and perverting the course of justice?

marnia68 · 03/12/2014 19:36

'Would you like the taxi driver who has been charged but not convicted to be the one to pick your wife or daughter up? Or would you rather they got a different taxi?

Would you feel comfortable knowing that the scoutmaster your son is on a trip with was only charged with raping his son but not convicted?'

..and you illustrate my point nicely.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 03/12/2014 19:35

Yeah, look at poor William Roach. No job, homeless, career in tatters..... oh no, hang on a sec.....

marnia68 · 03/12/2014 19:34

Frankly, I make the assumption that if a case has got as far as being charged, then the man is guilty. Because the CPS is not exactly quick to charge in rape cases

have you got any sons, MEOD?

A false accusation of rape is a terrible thing for a man to go through with, it will follow him round for the rest of his life.Look ay the Bill Roach case.One of the women when she got to court admitted to not even knowing she had been raped.

MyEmpireOfDirt · 03/12/2014 19:33

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OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse · 03/12/2014 19:26

I like how it's only feminists who aren't allowed to have opinions. Everyone else is, of course Grin

The pretence that everyone but feminists are impartial sensible types who always reserve judgement until all the facts are in is baffling. You have to wonder whether people who claim that, have ever had a conversation with anyone in the general public Grin People have opinions about everything!

MyEmpireOfDirt · 03/12/2014 19:24

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OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse · 03/12/2014 19:23

And I like the fact that people who are predisposed to thinking men who are accused of rape are innocent are AOK for juries, while people who are predisposed to thinking men accused of rape are guilty are not OK at all and must be removed. Despite the fact that statistically the second group are correct.

Anyhoo.

Given that only the most in-your-face cut and dried total definite there were 22 witnesses type rapes ever get to trial all of this is academic really isn't it.

MyEmpireOfDirt · 03/12/2014 19:21

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YonicScrewdriver · 03/12/2014 19:21
OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse · 03/12/2014 19:20

"Thanks to those who made sensible intelligent comments."

Patronising much?

"Your last post is very well thought-out and reasoned"

Pat on the head for you Buffy!!!!! Maybe a gold star too if you play your cards right!

And MEOD - not EMOD BTW - well as she has commented on this thread that she is currently awaiting trial around her being abducted and raped, I would imagine that she would be really fucking grateful not to have to be on a jury and listen to someone else's trauma you callous idiot

YonicScrewdriver · 03/12/2014 19:19

Aicm, that's incorrect. Every single one of us makes a judgment on court cases in process, as they are reported on in the press, say. We all know that if we are actually a juror, it is our civic duty to judge if a case is proved beyond reasonable doubt. They are two separate things.

MyEmpireOfDirt · 03/12/2014 19:19

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AICM · 03/12/2014 19:17

Buffy:
EMOD: A man on trail must be guilty.
Me: That's not a justice.

AICM · 03/12/2014 19:16

Thanks to those who made sensible intelligent comments.

Buffy: I was a little hasty in my initial comment. Your last post is very well thought-out and reasoned. I see the point you are making and agree with you.

EMOD: You're an unsuitable person to be a juror in a rape case.

OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse · 03/12/2014 19:13

The police often know who the locals are who come in and tell them nonsense on a regular basis don't they? At least according to The Bill.

BuffytheFestiveFeminist · 03/12/2014 19:13

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OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse · 03/12/2014 19:12

Well many people with MHPs who tell the police "stuff" - don't give specifics - they don't actually accuse a particular person.

People with MHPs can and do tell the police (and other agencies) all sorts of things. Falsely confess to crimes (which can cause a lot of cost and distress), falsely accuse people of all sorts of crimes, and so on.

If someone is ill enough that they have disconnected with reality to that extent then they need help, not prosecuting. Same as if someone commits a crime because they have MHPs.

Unfortunately our criminal justice system is terrible for many groups of people, those with MHPs included, but that's another story isn't it?