Any good examples to help point out sexism to my DH?

partial I think it's because women are supposed to care about that stuff, also women are supposed to look a certain way and most celebs follow that look so we read their diet tips and find out where they shop so we can look more like them and be accepted.
Think about the "make overs" on The X Factor for example, the men get a new suit and maybe grow some facial hair, the women often Have a whole new look, or the spice girls, one had to be sporty, one had to be innocent etc, they couldn't just be....singers....

Thank you Yonic.

Point well made.

if we ever have a daughter.
that's one of the best ways to increase any decent bloke's awareness of sexism. Especially when the DD pulls him up on things that he might brush off or be defensive about to a partner.

Sorry, my post did not address the OP's question.

I was not trying to divert the direction of the thread.

Because men and women are both brought up under patriarchal norms, partial.

WHY don't men give a toss? Because men give less of a toss about measures of attractiveness. WHY do men give less of a toss about measures of attractiveness? Because men are less judged on their attractiveness.

Male celebs are never asked their dress size, their weight, their diet tips,

Isn't that because men couldn't give a toss?

The media assume that women want to know that stuff.

I can never understand why the most mysogynist paper on the market; the DM, is also the most widely read/bought by females?

(Sorry, no stats to back that up, but I'm sure I have seen them somewhere)

This one?
A young boy and his father are in a car accident. The father dies at the scene. The boy is transported to the hospital, taken immediately into surgery... but the surgeon steps out of the operating room and says, "I can't operate on this boy - he is my son!"

The question: Who is the surgeon?

Have you tried the puzzles like on www.folj.com/lateral/ I was trying to find the surgeon one but ones like this are just as good;

Acting on an anonymous phone call, the police raid a house to arrest a suspected murderer. They don't know what he looks like but they know his name is John and that he is inside the house. The police bust in on a carpenter, a lorry driver, a mechanic and a fireman all playing poker. Without hesitation or communication of any kind, they immediately arrest the fireman. How do they know they've got their man?

I wont spoil it the solutions on the webpage.

do you automatically use 'he' 'his' and 'him'? Why? They could just as easily be female

My mum does this all the time 'He's the Doctor' - 'She is the nurse' I've got two dd's so constantly pulling her up on it - have been for 15 years now, she still does it

I was listening to Iain Dale on LBC the other day - he had interviewed Natalie Bennett, afterwards he interviewed a Tory MP - forget who, but Iain Dale asked the MP 'Can you imagine Natalie Bennet meeting Putin?' Followed by much guffawwing and chuckling...... Why? because she is a woman she couldn't deal with Putin??? ffs

ChristmassyMe glad to hear the union battled on for you and you got the settlement.

In some instances battering business is going to be the only way to get any change. Though will be at the cost of many womens careers being unfairly ruined/ostracised till the consciousness changes.

Hello, can I add my experience? It's not every day (I hope) but it's the kind of thing most people think doesn't happen these days (I thought that as well until it happened), and it is what happens when the 'little things' go unchallenged:

My work had a reorganisation of staff so we had to apply for posts. I expressed an interest verbally to my manager about a role, to which he replied 'don't you have to be a big bloke, er, person, to do that job?'. (The job is not physical, it's regulatory so you might have to deal with a bit of conflict or make people do something (by taking them to court). I applied, I have a degree and masters in the subject and 3 years' experience of doing that exact job, alongside about another 3 of doing a related role. I didn't get the job, they gave it to a man with no relevant qualifications or experience. Although I spoke to the union, I didn't do anything about it at that time, instead deciding to prove my worth - I mentored the poor bloke doing the job, and showed I'd be great in this field. A year later, the bloke's 'team leader' type person (also a man) left, and I was offered the job straight off (the one above that I'd been passed over for a year before) - no interview or anything. However, I wasn't offered the same salary as the man doing the job before, even though it was the exact same job. I was informed it was because they were doing me a favour helping me with my career! A few months after starting I informed them I was pregnant, I was still trying to negotiate equal pay, and one of the comments about my pay/career progression was (boss gesturing to my belly) 'well you haven't done yourself any favours'. I did get equal pay in the end - I raised a grievance, lost, and went to appeal, and the union threatened to go to tribunal. I won the appeal and got equal pay about 8 or 9 months after starting the job.

purplefeathers - I'm pretty sure Fara Williams has broken her record. Which puts Shilton at at least number three.

How about how you/one refers to people and characters where the sex is indeterminate, for example - a motorcycle rider, a bear in a book, a dancing banana - do you automatically use 'he' 'his' and 'him'? Why? They could just as easily be female.

I found that one especially thought provoking. I don;t know if I'm socially conditioned, or if it's because I have a DS, but I'm expecting a DD now, so I'm trying to retrain myself to use female pronouns for anyone/anything unspecified :)

X... if you want to do a version of everyday sexism for men, knock yourself out. No one's stopping you. Stop whining about women looking out for eachother and go and do something instead.

Off topic but I love "devil's avocado".

Everyday Sexism, a website for people to post experiences of sexism they have experienced, but only women are allowed to post (irony much?)

"Every picture of a person published int he Sun over 6 months and pinned up, men on one side women on the other."

Are you kidding??? How many hours did that take? Talk about too much free time

ALSO (sorry for more posts, I keep thinking of things to add) I haven't scanned the whole thread yet, but has anyone pointed you in the direction of Everyday Sexism? A wondrous, but thoroughly depressing website, which has tuned a lot of my male friends into real everyday life situations they would never experience.

Also, I LOVE this takedown by Anne Hathaway when quizzed about her fitness regime for the Catwoman suit! The questions he asks her in comparision to Christian Bale are so inane. FF to around 40 seconds.

A big one for me is news stories about e.g. an awards show, where they discuss the various successes of men in the photos, but only the appearance of the women and/or their relation to the men involved. Something like "Kim Kardashian, wife of megastar rapper Kanye West, looked stunning in her Versace gown. She wore her hair down in soft loose curls, accentuated by dramatic eye makeup and nude lips. Kanye, who was there to accept the award for , kept it cool in Vivienne Westwood."

Male celebs are never asked their dress size, their weight, their diet tips, their work out routine, their fashion inspiration, their favourite shops, where ther get their hair cut, if they feel pressure to look a certain way etc. That's pretty much all female celebs are asked, look at interviews with little mix vs one direction, massive differences.

Do you mean during this game, cary?

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=nQOuMWiGMrU
I think Stephanie could do with a sandwich as well as those oranges you are chopping. Welcome to MN!

Does cutting the oranges up at half time count?