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Feminist Pub 14: The Bluestocking, a place for feminist chat and feminists to chat

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YonicScrewdriver · 14/11/2014 22:56

Welcome!

This is the 14th incarnation of the Pub and is meant as a place to drop by with random thoughts and meandering chats, on feminist or other related themes. Anything you want to mull over but not necessarily start a thread about. Alternatively, flop onto the chaise lounges with some Wine

We have a pub goat, a feminist cannon for firing at crazy sexists and a variety of drinks and snacks. And stools/bar counters at female friendly heights. And a crèche in the back somewhere

Will link the last pub in the next post!

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PetulaGordino · 21/11/2014 07:36

yes agree with buffy - HR would probably be wary of that sort of comment so rejection has to be very standard in format

agree that there is a need for a journal of stuff that didn't work. though not sure pharma would play ball there (not the only research area that would benefit from negative results of course)

YonicScrewdriver · 21/11/2014 07:29

Exactly what Buffy said!

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 21/11/2014 07:28

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Sabrinnnnnnnna · 21/11/2014 00:26

BOOM!

And once more for "People have a responsibility to keep themselves safe"

Thanks to Annie and anyone else feeling in need of some tlc.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 21/11/2014 00:18

The rape apology is strong with them. I don't know wether to be sad that they don't realise how stupid they're being or angry that, should the absolute worst happen to their DDs, they won't feel comfortable speaking to them.

MyEmpireOfDirt · 21/11/2014 00:15

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AnnieLobeseder · 21/11/2014 00:08

Nah, interview guy wrote it.

But enough about me. It occurs to me we haven't fired our cannon lately! So I propose we wheel it out.

"Even though rapists are to blame for attacking women, if the women would only take sensible precautions like... " BOOM!

Plus a celebratory BOOM for the arrival of Junior Feminist Violet.

YonicScrewdriver · 20/11/2014 23:58

Annie, just because the letter didn't say it, doesn't mean it wasn't true. HR probably wrote the letter...

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 20/11/2014 23:04

Ah, I see.

It sounds depressing, but you will get there, right? Surely these companies interview and assess people over and over?

AnnieLobeseder · 20/11/2014 22:59

Oh, I know, Jeanne, we had realised in the interview that the salary offered was well below what I would consider accepting, so I didn't think I was going to get the job I actually interviewed for. But the interviewer seemed keen to try to find me a better position, and there wasn't even any mention of that in the rejection email - I was hoping for something along the lines of "please accept this even bigger and better position for loads of money cos that's just how awesome you are!". Or the slightly more realistic "while you weren't suitable for that position, we can see you fitting in well in another role. Unfortunately none are available but we'll certainly be in touch when one comes up". But this was just a "thanks for coming but the other guy got it. Good luck for the future". No door left open at all. Sad

We're relocating partly so there would be lots of jobs for me. But there are really only 4 employers in the city, I've been turned down after interview by two and didn't even get a response to my application by the third. I've got an application in with the fourth and final, but if they don't give me a job I'm rather stuck!

YonicScrewdriver · 20/11/2014 22:24

Watching the bbc news. FGM story Sad then Ched Evans update [bright spot].

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YonicScrewdriver · 20/11/2014 22:23

Sorry Annie. Good luck for viva though!

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 20/11/2014 22:22

annie, I am sorry. But, I do wonder TBH. This was a job intereview where, if I understand rightly, you might have done better. They are not going to want to offer you the job if chances are you will take something else, or have one foot out of the door, so if I have understood that situation rightly, then FGS don't beat yourself up. You're a highly qualified person. You'll get something as good or better.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 20/11/2014 22:21

OMW, that thread.

trevortrevorslattery · 20/11/2014 22:04

Bah Annie that is rubbish Hmm

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 20/11/2014 21:46

Sorry about the job Annie.

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OublietteBravo · 20/11/2014 20:50

That really is ironicGrin

I hope my previous post didn't sound too flippant. I genuinely believe that this type of journal is needed. In fact, I believe this to be a common view point within the research community.

AnnieLobeseder · 20/11/2014 20:44

The irony is, this job is for a publishers, and the interviewer and I had a very passionate discussion on our agreement there is indeed a need for a Journal of Desperately Disappointing Data. Sad

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FibonacciSeries · 20/11/2014 20:21

There is a company I really, really, really want to work for because it covers two of my biggest passions in life (one of them being obviously IT). I just know I'd do a brilliant job. I've applied to their mid lever management positions more than once. Get a rejection within half a hour (which means my resume hasn't hit enough key words or hasn't made it past HR). I managed to track down someone who works there and get him to hand deliver my resume to the CIO. Still nothing. I suspect it's because I come from a different industry, but you know what, the guys they are hiring for these jobs also come from different industries and I bet you they don't feel half as passionate as I do. It bugs me so much.

OublietteBravo · 20/11/2014 20:21

Sad Annie - I hate that type of email.