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Feminist Pub 14: The Bluestocking, a place for feminist chat and feminists to chat

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YonicScrewdriver · 14/11/2014 22:56

Welcome!

This is the 14th incarnation of the Pub and is meant as a place to drop by with random thoughts and meandering chats, on feminist or other related themes. Anything you want to mull over but not necessarily start a thread about. Alternatively, flop onto the chaise lounges with some Wine

We have a pub goat, a feminist cannon for firing at crazy sexists and a variety of drinks and snacks. And stools/bar counters at female friendly heights. And a crèche in the back somewhere

Will link the last pub in the next post!

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ballsballsballs · 21/11/2014 18:18

It's not quite narcissism. She's incredibly sensitive (almost overly so) and I think 'needs me to need her' IYSWIM. Mostly it washes over me but today it's annoying.

A much closer friend took her own life a few years ago, and DM wept copiously over the phone. She'd hated my friend and was barely on civil terms with her. Much grief tourism abounded at the time...

SconeRhymesWithGone · 21/11/2014 18:16

grief voyeurism?

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 21/11/2014 18:12

Yes Buffy that works but am thinking like "grief tourism" but it's not

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 21/11/2014 18:05

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FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 21/11/2014 17:51

I am avoiding the anti feminist stuff and the rape threads as my blood pressure would not stand it.

Balls - that's crap - I had a friend who I ditched because she was doing that re my mum - making it all about her - there's a name for it but I forget.

Brew and Wine

ballsballsballs · 21/11/2014 17:46

Can I please come in here and have a mini-rant?

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It's been a shit week. A friend died of cancer, and I'm still waiting for test results that may be life-changing or... not. I texted another friend about the death and she was in tears (despite not knowing my friend). She's hounding me for test results - last time we spoke she told me she 'was worried about me'. I've realised that she has a way of subtly making my shit all about her, and today it's giving me the rage. She's a close friend and I don't know how to nicely tell her to FTFO off with her dramatic worrying about me - if she's worried about me I don't want to hear about it. And right now I may just bite her head off.

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[tea] and Wine all round. And massive Flowers for everyone dealing with the anti-feminist and victim blamey stuff that's prevalent here at the mo.

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 21/11/2014 17:41

Annie - I ate a starter, main course AND CHIPS AND A DESSERT.

Fuck it, it's only one day, start again tomorrow?

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 21/11/2014 17:40

omfg just omfg

He's a friend of a friend - we had met in a bar a few weeks ago and texted a time or two. He had heard from his mate that I was having a bad day or three and had texted. to see if there was anything he could do.

So we ended up going for lunch today.

He's beaut. Tall. And I like them tall. Doesn't matter when he's on his knees, obv, but I like them tall. Grin he's 6ft5 fucking hell I'm 5ft2 He's got salt and pepper hair, nicely chunky proper broad shoulders.

He didn't twing any of my "dickhead" alerts and yes I snogged him Grin

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 21/11/2014 17:39

Nooooo Annie, you can't hide away. I went and admitted that on the ONE day I wasn't doing to eat chocolate, I ate chocolate!

cailindana · 21/11/2014 17:36

Ooh Frau interesting! Details?

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 21/11/2014 17:34
AnnieLobeseder · 21/11/2014 17:31

I have a weight-loss support thread going, Petula. Which I am ignoring since I have inhaled many cakes today.

PetulaGordino · 21/11/2014 17:29

what is annie's thread?

PetulaGordino · 21/11/2014 17:26

it's not even personally triggering for me as i have no direct personal experience of actual rape, i just get terribly upset, which is why i feel i'm letting the side down, because there are plenty of women for whom it is personally triggering and i'm not there for them right now

EElisavetaofBelsornia · 21/11/2014 16:52

I had my wobble yesterday and am up for the argument again now too. Katee I complained on Zazzle's principle that they assume every complaint equals nine more dissatisfied people - haven't even had a non reply yet though.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 21/11/2014 16:30

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PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom · 21/11/2014 16:20

I agree too. I have had it up to fucking here with victim blaming and also the feminist hate. Might limit myself to the pub and Annie's thread for a while.

MyEmpireOfDirt · 21/11/2014 16:16

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cailindana · 21/11/2014 16:14

No you're not Petula. No one in their right mind would say you have to engage with these idiots at the expense of your own wellbeing. I get plenty of days where I'm just not up to the fight.

Flowers
PetulaGordino · 21/11/2014 16:10

I have checked out of the rape threads as just too upsetting. I know I'm letting the side down though Sad

KateeGee · 21/11/2014 15:31

Did anyone else complain to the BBC about Nick Conrad and get a complete non-apology about it? Hmm I nearly applied for a job in their complaints department recently. Glad I didn't bother, I don't think I could live with myself peddling such nonsense.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 21/11/2014 15:21

That's really good news Cailin, that he's given his head a solid wobble. I hope he sees it as a starting point for him to become less of a twat.

Cor lummey, there's a lot of rape apology going on, isn't there? I'm amazed they want to 'speak their truth' in such a vile fashion....

cailindana · 21/11/2014 14:20

He is definitely willing EE, but it's a tough struggle and I'm not sure we'll make it as a couple.

Thank you and thank you also for your brilliance Flowers

EElisavetaofBelsornia · 21/11/2014 14:07

I'm pleased to hear your update cailindana, it sounds like your DH is willing to try, which is so important. Also Flowers to you for being so brilliant on the rape apology thread.

cailindana · 21/11/2014 13:36

Yes he is Zazzles. He is finding it hard to square his sexist attitudes and his shit actions as a partner with his previous idea of himself as a good man and a decent husband.
He is being very accepting of my criticisms of his behaviour but it's tough going for him, obviously, as, like you say, it's very very difficult to confront negative things about yourself, it's far easier to believe a lie.