Feminist Pub 14: The Bluestocking, a place for feminist chat and feminists to chat

They've just chopped off his arm! (Copenhagen production. A bit grim.)

upto and those wily rhinemaidens tut tut. They are good at singing though.

V. hard to concentrate when there are people bellowing in the background. But it seems an age-old story of people trading women like some inanimate object.

Somebody posted on FB an old grant application, which said "give me some money to do some research" and it was approved ...

It's not so much that "value diversity" is bullshit - rather, it's that "do not value diversity" is bullshit, and therefore it seems a bit obvious to say you "value diversity". But people seem to want you to state the obvious. If this makes sense. I'm watching Das Rheingold on youtube ...

I enjoy writing bullshit, especially the ones calling people dickheads in polite formal language. So liberating.

Thanks Yonic will check it out.

Hello by the way, sorry I launched into my post before asking if anyone's drink needed refreshing? My round

Kickass I would love it if my DD's teachers wrote reports in 'real' language, it would be so much more personal and I'd like to know if my kids need a kick up the backside so to speak.

I miss corporate-speak, it was like learning a new language, absolutely fascinating. I really got into the whole prince 2, six sigma, NLP, who moved my cheese bullshit, it was like playing a fun game . Organisational culture is so interesting. Less interesting when you are bashing your head against a wall trying to get stuff done though.

What's the big thing these days? The last book people were obsessed with in my org before I left (in 2009! years ago now) was Peter Senge's Fifth Discipline (think a new addition came out just before then?) as we were on a journey to become a "learning organisation". What are people into now? [out-of-date feminist emoticon]

Dragon about your friend.

Been out and about. Even had a big argument about how girls dress.

Still. Writing. Reports.

That sounds like fun kickass. Did you get your reports written?

I've just had to defriend one of my oldest "friends" from facebook. She posted some utter bollocks about a young woman who was 'cured' of her homosexuality by prayer and faith in God. My 'friend' has become very religious over the past few years and I've been distancing myself but this is the last straw. I just don't recognise her brand of Christianity, she seems set on judging other people rather than helping people who need it. I'm just sad that she's changed so much from the fun-loving young woman I used to know :(

Well, just took DD and 2 new friends to ice skating and lunch. Their mum and I seemed to get on well, the girls all had a great time, and we all seemed to get to the 'had enough' stage at around the same time. In fact, pretty perfect for a first time get together...

Except for the random spare sock I discovered trapped half way down my jeans leg after the first hour. Why didn't I notice that when I pulled my jeans out of the laundry basket this morning?

I use real speak at work and I swear to God, many "corporate stars" think I'm a bit thick because I don't talk about blue sky thinking, going forward, leverage, cadence and right sizing.

Ugh, talking about 'real' speak, rather than the convoluted bullshit I have to come out with, here are some 'real' conversations I would like to have with certain senior managers in the company I am working at:

• Your sales people are shit

• You have completely lost your marketing capabilities and competencies. Marketing is a foreign concept in this company, and bears no resemblance to any marketing I have done, ever

• The CEO and your senior managers have all been promoted well beyond their capabilities

• Don't rely on your customers to tell you what they want, they don't know your business, YOU know your business

• The people who you think are 'stars' in the company can all talk the talk, but they can't walk the walk. Learn to see the difference and hire better people

• Stop offering free fucking stock to your customers!!! You have taught them that all they have to do is say "I'm going elsewhere", and you crumble like a fucking soggy biscuit!

Errm, that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Oh and to make it a feminist issue, 11/13 senior managers here are men.

kickass your 'real' speak report is why it's probably not a good idea for me to go into teaching children. I think I'd end up writing 2 sets of reports, one in 'acceptable to parents' speak and the other in 'real' speak and then spending far too long worrying that I'd put the wrong one in the envelopes...

I'd love to write reports in real world language rather than teacher speak. I really want to say things like "he could be really good if he just listened to what I say and acts on it instead of writing stupid messages on his whiteboard and doing his best to avoid doing any work at all. Oh and he still doesn't know his times tables despite having been learning them for 6 years and being quite bright. He obviously just doesn't care" That felt good, and could describe quite a lot of my pupils.

kickass you sound like my lecturer. Today he gave us a 10 minute refresher on grammar as he'd spent the weekend marking second-year essays and they gave him the rage.

I am tempted to do a report in 'real' speak rather than teacher talk. So, yes, something along the lines of "right now they dump all their ideas onto the page in one great vomitous lump of irrational, emotional response. However, with a few smacks around the head, I am sure that I can get them to use paragraphs and get rid of words like 'dudes' and 'peeps'. Otherwise, they're a pretty nice kid."
It would be so nice to be able to write reports like that, instead of 60 variants of 'xxx displays a good understanding of the texts, but needs to present their ideas in a more organized fashion."

I have the rest of the day to get the last 28 reports done, but first I shall take dd ice skating with some friends and waste a few hours doing not much at all, then settle down at the last minute and type away like a fiend.

Urhh I can't be arsed to return to that Hooters thread. However I am toying with the idea of changing my username to JealousMinger