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Would you say anything if this song was played at an Infant school disco?

86 replies

NotWiggling · 09/11/2014 21:04

The song is "Wiggle" By Jason Derulo, with a charming rap by Snoop Dogg.

Lyrics as follows - and please look away now if likely to be offended:

Hey, yo, Jason
Say somethin' to her, Holla at her [Laughs]
I got one question
How do you fit all that... in them jeans? [Laughs]

You know what to do with that big fat butt

[Chorus:]
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle
Just a little bit of... swing

Patty cake, Patty cake
With no hands
Got me in this club making wedding plans
If I take pictures while you do your dance
I can make you famous on Instagram

Hot damn it
Your booty like two planets
Go head, and go ham sandwich
Whoa, I can't stand it

'Cause you know what to do with that big fat butt

[Chorus]

Cadillac, Cadillac, pop that trunk
Let's take a shot
Alley oop that dunk tired of working that 9 to 5
Oh baby let me come and change your life

Hot damn it
Your booty like two planets
Go head, and go ham sandwich
Whoa, I can't stand it

'Cause you know what to do with that big fat butt

[Chorus]

[Snoop Dogg rap:]
Shake what your mama gave you
Misbehave you
I just wanna strip you, dip you, flip you, bubble bathe you
What they do
Taste my rain drops, K boo
Now what you will and what you want and what you may do
Completely separated,
Till I deeply penetrate it
Then I take it out and wipe it off
Eat it, ate it, love it, hate it
Overstated, underrated, everywhere I've been
Can you wiggle, wiggle for the D, O, double G, again?

Etc. (there's some more but that's got most of it covered)

Would you say anything to the school? I have a 6 year old DD. When this song comes on the radio I turn it over as I hate it. She asked me why once so I explained to her that it is two men talking about women's bodies in a not nice way. When the song came on at the disco she got quite upset and asked should they be playing this? I think it is wildly inappropriate and want to challenge it. But am I overthinking it?

Would you mention it to the school?

OP posts:
WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 10/11/2014 07:55

I don't really "hear" lyrics quite often, especially with the sort of pop music the DCs like, which is exactly the sort that gets played at school discos. Every now and then, on about the 50th listen to a Now or whatever CD in the car I will suddenly tune in properly and hear the lyrics, sometimes they are quite inappropriate. However anyone who is a DJ at a school disco most certainly ought to be listening properly to all the planned songs and selecting appropriate ones.

icanhaveadarksideifyouwantmeto · 10/11/2014 07:49

yes i would mention it to the school.

But i would keep it lighthearted

I once complained about them playing the pouges (sp) but all i said was 'i really dont think thats appropriate for a primary school'

they turned it off pronto and apologised.

ChippingInAutumnLover · 10/11/2014 07:43

Canyouforgiveher - who said it was 'OK' for 5 year olds??

It is highly unlikely to come on anything, anywhere, that I'd be listening to (that's within my control). Highly unlikely. If it did, the 'noise' would probably make me turn it off before the lyrics even registered. If the lyrics did register then yes I'd turn it off if I was in the car, probably wouldn't bother at home unless I was next to the radio.

However, that's a significantly different situation to the OP. It being played once, while the children are running around and generally acting like chimps on a sugar overload...I can live with it. No one set out to be offensive, they were doing their best to put on a fun event for the kids and given I'm not offering to replace them, I'm not about to act like a prat over one song. No.

Willabywallaby · 10/11/2014 07:22

What about I'm too Sexy song in our youth?

FunkyBoldRibena · 10/11/2014 07:05

I remember being extremely obsessed with the Rolling Stones and singing 'fuck a star, fuck a star fuck a sta-a-ar' around the house at that age.

But yes, that at an infant disco - wrong - what are some adults on these days?

MollyBdenum · 10/11/2014 07:00

Our school gets a cheesy DJ who does children's parties in for the school disco. For the infants disco, thee are lots of games (Hokey Cokey, how high can you jump) and lots of songs with official dances that the kids can do (the conga, the Macarena, the birdie song etc) interspersed with some inoffensive 1D, spice girls etc.

Willabywallaby · 10/11/2014 06:54

I used to sing hit me with your ribbon stick, parents still laugh now, didn't even know that's what it really meant Blush

I think there are so many songs out now that have awful lyrics, not appropriate for children, but thankfully most of the time you can make out the words anyway.

HalfSpamHalfBrisket · 10/11/2014 06:54

appropriate and which I'm going to do a hasty mix!

HalfSpamHalfBrisket · 10/11/2014 06:53

Blurred Lines anyone?
I stomped in to the KS2 disco and asked this to be taken off (I am a Foundation teacher at the school).

But school discos cash be a complete nightmare, I am left with a couple recent 'now that's what I call music' CDs, and no idea which tracks are

redwarf · 10/11/2014 06:43

probably should say i would have feedback to the school after the event but would not be overly concerned unless my DD was asking about the content.

redwarf · 10/11/2014 06:24

probably singing into the wind but this reminds me of conversation recently had a work. We were remembering the songs we used to love as kids and shocked at the pretty hardcore content that went striaght over our heads.

We all merrily danced to ebenezer goode, Lucy in the sky with diamonds boom boom boom, prince, rap, reggae with understanding any of the sexual lyrics. It was just fun music to us.

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 10/11/2014 01:51

Little kids don't get it. Yes,mention it to the school but why are YOU ruining your daughters innocence by telling her it's men talking about womens bodys in 'not a nice way'? You have caused her upset,not the song and I think that is out of order

kickassangel · 10/11/2014 01:49

Surprised that people think there are double meanings here. A man wants to fuck a woman up the arse whether she's into it or not. Would someone care to suggest any other meaning? Or explain why it is suitable for 5 year olds to dance to it?

Maybe someone can explain why encouraging 5 year olds to wave their arses in a sexually enticing way is a good idea?

I'm amazingly liberal about swear words and even sexual reference, but there are plenty of songs which 5 year olds can dance to without encouraging anal rape.

Music too loud is also an issue at that age.

Canyouforgiveher · 10/11/2014 01:30

The problem is that just about every song now has inappropriate lyrics, inappropriate (lack of) clothing for women singers and inappropriate dancing - there's very little to choose from.

There is certainly a lot of inappropriate crap around but there are also plenty of songs that aren't. I'm quite surprised people think this is ok for 5 year olds. Would you not turn it off yourself if it came on the car radio with small children in the car? Is it that many people just don't hear lyrics? (my dh doesn't hear lyrics much, just the music).

bananaramadramallama · 10/11/2014 01:18

I agree with chipping tbh.

Yes, it's a shit song with crappy lyrics, but infant age won't 'get it'.
I ran around singing 'hit me with your rhythm stick', too - as well as 'relax' & 'like a virgin' etc and didn't have a clue what I was singing about.

The problem is that just about every song now has inappropriate lyrics, inappropriate (lack of) clothing for women singers and inappropriate dancing - there's very little to choose from.

TentsAndTiaras · 10/11/2014 01:08

Well I'd say it probably made a nice change from Let It Go. Looking at the lyrics, I would say that they are double meanings rather than offensive words, I very much doubt that the children would have paid too much attention to it. If you are going to write to complain, then can I suggest offering your help to run the next school disco. Being an active member of our PTA, the criticism nearly always comes from parents who don't give up any time to help. It's very easy to criticise, and I am sure it wouldn't take a genius to realise that the organise wouldn't have intended to offend by their song choice - be part of the solution next time.

Canyouforgiveher · 10/11/2014 01:04

sorry chippinginautumn, didnt quote right.

Canyouforgiveher · 10/11/2014 01:03

I'm more worried your DD got so upset about a song being played. You might want to think about how you deal with stuff like this a bit more, you're scaring her. It's just a song, nothing to be upset about.

there is plenty to be upset in a song like that. This wouldn't be played at a school teenage disco in our school, still less for 5 year olds. I don't see any reason why we should just accept whatever sexist, objectifying, racist and nasty crap the music industry chose to give us on the basis it is just a song. Good for the OP in teaching her dd that she can object to what is played to her.

ChippingInAutumnLover · 10/11/2014 00:53

...and no, I wouldn't email them. It's one song, 3 minutes. If you nit pick about things like this, they'll stop organising them then the kids will miss out. I'm sure one of the teachers there will have picked up on it and they won't play it next time. Even if they do, the world won't end.

ChippingInAutumnLover · 10/11/2014 00:50

They shouldn't have played that, no, it's vile.

However, at least with kids that age it goes right over their heads. The worst that's likely to come of it is that they go around repeating the chorus (wiggle wiggle) or repeating Big Fat Butt.

I grew up when 'Hit me with your rhythm stick' was on the radio endlessly, it was a catchy tune. Never once thought it meant what it supposedly does!

I'm more worried your DD got so upset about a song being played. You might want to think about how you deal with stuff like this a bit more, you're scaring her. It's just a song, nothing to be upset about.

SoonToBeSix · 10/11/2014 00:49

I would say nothing because infant age dc are neither listening or understanding the lyrics.

Sativa · 10/11/2014 00:43

At my son's primary school disco they played Cee Lo Green's hit. Not the edited version "Forget You", oh no, it was "Fuck You".

The teacher in charge rushed over to get it taken off. The best part was the DJ was the dad of one of the boys in my son's class.....

unclerory · 10/11/2014 00:34

Unfortunately my DDs school discos are on a day that DH and I work. I am so pleased this is the case.

You should complain but I can understand if you don't. I was at a birthday party for a 6 year old girl where they played Blurred Lines. None of the Mums thought it was good but none of us actually went up to complain, I do wish I had.

Amethyst24 · 10/11/2014 00:16

Sorry, but why? What are they for? What happens at them? (I don't have children and nor do I have a clue.)

YonicScrewdriver · 09/11/2014 22:22

Age 5, not 50, obviously!!

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