BBCMisogyny tasered man, no mention of murdered woman victim

Your point is ?

mmm...I wonder if he might have been a victim of some mental ill-health ?

I think the phrase 'unfortunately he died' is because obviously the police officer's intention was merely to subdue him, not to kill him. Whereas with the young woman she was murdered so obviously it was unfortunate for her, it goes without saying, indeed unfotunate doesn't even begin to cover it, it was tragic, horrific, outrageous etc.

But it was the murderer's intention to murder her, it wasn't an accident unlike the PO's intention which was not to kill the man. It was unfortunate in the true sense that he ended up dead.

There would be no problem with saying. "The Man died." I think that would have been better.

There are many murders unreported by the press. More men are murdered every year than women, and we don't hear about them either.

We do hear about the unusual crimes. A suspect dying at the hands of the police is unusual.

Completely agree. Also the fact that said man murdered a 'vulnerable' woman is not remotely unusual, but the fact her then cannibalised her is.

The report I saw on the TV yesterday lunchtime (sorry camt rmember which chanel) described what had happened then said "unfortunately the man died"

They didn't say that about the poor woman who had been murdered.

We don't actual know that it was the first officer on the scene who discharged the taser.

There are many murders unreported by the press. More men are murdered every year than women, and we don't hear about them either.

We do hear about the unusual crimes. A suspect dying at the hands of the police is unusual.

If he had been arrested, not tasered leading to death, we wouldn't have heard anything about this crime until the victim's name was released, and then I expect coverage would have been all about her and the horrific nature of the crime (which is pretty much how it has been since about this time yesterday when that information was released).

If he had been arrested, and there was nothing unusual about the crime then like the most of the 60 or so female and 200 or so male murder victims each year, it would not receive national coverage.

I agree cherries, the initial report WAS bizarre, certainly on the Today programme.

It was very much -A MAN WHO HAS BEEN TAZERED BY THE POLICE HAS DIED. (btw he was in the process of murdering a woman)

BIWI's point basically translates to 'we expect women to be murdered, at the rate of more or less one a day, by men they know, or met recently. It's much more worthy if report when the man does it in an unusual way.' And I know what they mean. But, yes, it's a feminist issue.

The C4 news report was very good, though.
They paused the story and asked viewers to think about the woman murdered; who she was. They had a friend on to tell a story to humanise her. It was the sort of report people like us (!) always say there should be after a sensational murder.
Agree there were feminist issues with crime: C 4 said man had previous conviction for partner abuse.
Yes, RIP Cerys.

All the news reports I heard today - travelling down the M1 - were either circumspectly vague, or reported both deaths.

But the point that they were making, in the detail of the report, was that the male had been tasered because he was not only the murderer, but also the cannibal. Surely, given the horrific nature of this crime, this would have been reported first? Why are you trying to make something 'feminist' about the reporting of this crime, when the really horrific nature of it is to to do with the man who was involved?

Exactly what BIWI said.

Having searched on BBC news for this I can see what you mean OP. More to do with the probe into how the murderer was killed than the awful death (once again) of an innocent woman.

The policewoman who tasered him shouldn't be occupational health therapy because she shouldn't feel guilty. She should be given a medal. 50,000 volts wasn't enough for that scumbag.

At least one photograph was officially released (ITV site credits it as Gwent police/family photo).

But yes, if you are caught up in a newsworthy event there will be elements ofthe press trying to find out everything they can. And what has been published online is an obvious place to look.

onerepublic The picture of the victim used in the Guardian specified that their image was taken with permission from a Facebook tribute pace set up by her friends. The Fail, maybe not so much.

LadySybil Yes, I do, although it was a long time ago. But IIRC the narrative there was "SERIAL KILLER ON THE LOOSE" and there was a lot of othering of the victims.

Dunno about that, Amethyst. Remember the Ipswich murders?

I sort of know what you mean, in that, I was woken by my radio alarm at 6:45 or 7AM yesterday by Moira Stuart saying "a man has died after being tasered in police custody. He is believed to have been in the process of attacking and eating a woman when the incident occurred."

Which kind of made me go, "what?? Man eats woman and the main story is that the police tasered him???"

But I think yesterday the media were just piecing stuff together and the police could probably confirm point A (that a man was tasered and died in police custody) but were not yet able to confirm point B (that the poor lady in question was being cannabalised).

Horribly gruesome story and my thoughts are with the family of the victim.

Can I just also say at this point, that while the victim's name may have been released I would put money that the likes of the Daily Mail have just lifted her photos straight off facebook - i.e. the family have probably not 'released' pictures per se

murder-porning

Urgh, horrid term, but so apt.

Actually, I can think of a feminist issue with the reporting of this. If Cerys Yemm had been older, black, less attractive, homeless or a prostitute, the story would have got fewer column inches and definitely photographs of her would have been less prominent.

So, while the BBC, the Guardian and the like are doing what I think is a pretty fair job, the DM and the tabloids will be murder-porning it up like mad, which is abhorrent.