Girls beating up boys

I'm saying that's how it could be perceived - it reinforces the notion that women get paid for sex in one way or another.

It's not something I would ever say. I don't think it's a good put down. I think it reinforces the notion that if men "pay" enough then sex is a right.

This is true, not sure anyone has actually judged him for his sexual preferences, well aside from the fact he obviously gets off on trying to trick women in to doing stuff for him.

Frau omg you think that when girls say " you can't afford it " to creepy men who accost them, they are not saying no, but are attempting to open negotiations?

Sorry but wtaf?

I don't give a shit what anyone's preferences are.

He could be - but that doesn't make the knocking one out wrong, it makes where he chose to put it wrong, but it doesn't make the preference wrong.

"And I read it as saying "if you had enough money I would""

Ah ok, that makes more sense.

I guess I'd always thought of it as a variation on "when hell freezes over", but can see why it could be interpreted differently.

You also have no idea what asaman's asexual preferences are, or indeed anyone else in here unless they have told you.

All you know on this thread is that the op is highly likely to be looking for stories of girls hitting boys so he can knock one out.

Actually the more I think about it, I'm actually not sure why women being gatekeepers of sex is a negative thing.

I'm more used to hear women being spoken about as if they owe men sex, that it's a man's right, so saying that actually no, women get to decide - that sounds good to me.

What am I missing?

And I read it as saying "if you had enough money I would"

Different perceptions.

I think it reinforces the notion that women are the gatekeepers of sex and women get paid for it in one way or another.

I have never used it.

The you can't afford it response is the only standard one I can think of that gives any power back to the girls.

It is saying, basically, no I am better than you. I wouldn't do you no matter how much money you had.

I don't see how it is a positive move to try and get it stamped out as a response.

"But I do object to the notion that all those women involved in BDSSM get paid for it."

I genuinely don't think AsAMan was suggesting that.

Frau That's a fair point, hadn't really thought about it from that viewpoint.

Though I guess the counter view, IMO, is that when I use the "I doubt you have that kind of money" response it's my way of saying I get to control what sexual activity I consent to, and no money in the world would make me consent to someone who thinks they can trick women into doing something sexual for them.

I don't give a shit if anyone else takes money every single time they fuck.

Honestly, I don't give a damn.

But I do object to the notion that all those women involved in BDSSM get paid for it.

Nothing is wrong with fuck off but girls have been saying this to men forever.

You want them to stop, OK. How do you suggest we tackle this problem.

Best in mind that fuck off is not in the same vein really so may illicit a more violent reaction to the man it's said to.

And Yonic, what I wrote was a general comment (that's why I said "everyone on this site") based on my experience of the last few days since coming "out" as a dominant woman.

Apologies if that was unclear.

Frau, it's not that you're not allowed to take offence because you weren't on the thread, it's that Asaman wasn't talking to you personally.

Was she talking generally, implying that ALL BDDSM peeps take money? I can't say because it seemed to be a throwaway joke made by someone whose thought processes I'm not privy to.

I suspect that the reference to money "you can't afford me" was made because in the world of some men like OP women are seen as the gatekeepers to sex and money as a way to open that gate. I agree that that idea is horribly offensive but it is equally offensive to all forms of sex, not just BDDSM and I suspect Asaman was making fun of that worldview, not endorsing it.

You obviously believe that it is offensive to accuse someone of taking money for sex. Does that mean that you think it is wrong to take money for sex? Because if so that is quite offensive to sex workers and I would be wary of saying that.

Frau as a man was responding to this one man who stated this thread who seems to be looking for stories from women about girls hitting boys so he can have a good wank.

Her response was a standard one that women and girls make when confronted with men like this to take the piss out of them and tell them to fuck off. And she aligned it with what he seems to want to get off on, ie women hitting men but put it in a way she thought he would recoil at rather than find sexual ie crushing his balls.

She was not commenting on normal people who like bdsm.

So a response that further reinforces the notion that women are the gate keepers of sex and that men have to pay for it - that's the right response?

Sod that. What's wrong with fuck off?

Well said!

So a response that further reinforces the notion that women are the gate keepers of sex and that men have to pay for it - that's the right response?

Sod that. What's wrong with fuck off?

Frau, I read this:

"Why does everyone on this site assume that because I am a Domme then I must be getting paid to do it"

As thinking Asa's was aimed at you specifically, because you used "I am"

It wasn't intended to make fun of your personal sexual preferences and I'm sorry you took it that way.

Garbled there sorry autocorrect

Hope it makes sense more or less

Girls beating up boys, not men beating up women.
As a Forces child I was regularly dropped into schools as and when my father was posted, Many of those schools had groups of children who didn't like incomers, especially if they were fairly bright and had a lot more experience of the world than many of them. This was in the 60s and early 70s.
I fought a lot of children, mostly boys. Rarely the same individual twice.

I am actually a little discombobulated at the idea that standard come backs that women and girls have for men who approach them uninvited and make sexism comments / proposition them need to be stopped.

We don't have many responses for men who do this and in a safer environment this is one that is used by many girls and make them laugh, they take back a tiny bit of power.

What would you replace it with, what would you rather they said?

Absolutely, but this guy, definitely creepy.

No one in their right mind would choose a feminist board to try and find women to satisy their sexual urges.

No one who isn't a creep would try to phrase their request as if it isn't sexual to get women to share stories without consenting to them being used as wank fodder.

And yeah, he picked the wrong site, and yes, indeed, that is wrong - but not all men who like to be hit by women are creepy. Certainly, the ones I was with last night weren't.