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i need a break from this feminism stuff

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whatdoesittake48 · 30/10/2014 11:42

I need to step away from the computer, switch off the news and stop expressing my frustrations to people who do not and will never get it. I need a break from my feminism. I am just so sad about it all. I know it is temporary and i will be back but i can't focus on this stuff any more for now. Anyone else reaching saturation point?

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MrsWolowitz · 30/10/2014 19:38

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OliviaBlue · 30/10/2014 19:38

What the hell are you talking about? What would you class as a man, MoreCrackThanHarlem?

MrsWolowitz · 30/10/2014 19:37

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OliviaBlue · 30/10/2014 19:35

Whatever, I get what I and my kids want, and that's pretty much all that matters to me, hon

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MoreCrackThanHarlem · 30/10/2014 19:33

You haven't answered the question. You said you want him to "be a man". What does this involve other than being the owner of a penis?

OliviaBlue · 30/10/2014 19:33

Dumb little girly-girls are the girls you guys are attempting to liken me too. Some stupid stay at home moms who let their husbands rule their lives and have nothing to say except, "when do you want dinner?". That's what I mean by girly-girl.

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LilAnnieAmphetamine · 30/10/2014 19:32

I prefer to look a man straight in the eye rather than batting mine. I like my relationships untainted by manipulation- a method used by women when they are powerless by the way.

Real women who are equal to men do not need to manipulate- that is the behaviour of the weak.

CatKisser · 30/10/2014 19:32

The idea of manipulating a man and wrapping him round my finger doesn't sit right with me - I'd much rather be thought of as an equally respected partner in whatever we were trying to achieve.

MrsTerrorPratchett · 30/10/2014 19:32

Why are you in the Feminist section Olivia? Just why?

OliviaBlue · 30/10/2014 19:31

As in not acting like a stereotypical woman. As in occasionally being a stereotypical man, MoreCrackThanHarlem

MoreCrackThanHarlem · 30/10/2014 19:31

Can I ask again, what do you mean by "being a man"?

MrsTerrorPratchett · 30/10/2014 19:30

My DH is over six foot and a black belt. Does that mean I'm not a feminist? I'm so confused.

BTW the fact that this phrase, "I'm not a dumb little girly-girl" is acceptable is why we need feminism.

OliviaBlue · 30/10/2014 19:29

Shocker how?

I didn't say my man wasn't a feminist. You're reading into things too much.

Curb that imagination, hon.

MoreCrackThanHarlem · 30/10/2014 19:28

I like him being masculine anyway - why would I want a man if he wasn't a man?
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "being a man"?

MrsWolowitz · 30/10/2014 19:27

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OliviaBlue · 30/10/2014 19:25

I'm not talking for all women, but it certainly works for me! I love my husband and he's very good to me. I like him being masculine anyway - why would I want a man if he wasn't a man? This whole brain washing thing is NONSENSE. Yes, I agree women are under-represented in government, and yes we don't get equal pay in all sectors. But aren't they opening all military positions to women in America? At least we're going somewhere.

I'll be the first to admit I like men who are masculine and strong. I'm not a dumb little girly-girl, I'm well educated and I work in a managerial role, but I still like a man who can take control sometimes - it turns me on.

Unlike a lot of the women here, however, I appear to understand the fact that we're all different and have our own preferences.

HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 30/10/2014 19:23

Olivia stands by while the men in her life slug it in the nude, breaking each others face and teeth in the process

I suspect I would lose a few thinking cells if I were doing that

MoreCrackThanHarlem · 30/10/2014 19:17

I went to a dance class the other day, a place I go to forget and unwind, and was confronted by a woman spewing bullshit about the Ched Evans rape victim. I didn't challenge her because I was exhausted and didn't want to make a scene, but I regretted that for days. Honestly, it's everywhere, and it's exhausting. And what hurts the most is when it comes from a person who you had previously assumed to be on the same page as you with regard to most things.
I can count the number of friends and family who get it on one hand. And it makes me question myself.

YonicScrewdriver · 30/10/2014 19:16

"The secret is allowing a man to believe he has control, but you steer the direction."

Is that what is happening on the 78% male FTSE boards then? All those men are being steered by women, they just don't know it? And the male dominated Houses of Parliament? Etc etc..

KarmaViolet · 30/10/2014 19:16

And how do you manipulate men, Olivia… actually, don't answer that.

"In control" is a myth when women are underrepresented in Parliament, in corporations, in justice, in power; when we are disproportionately the subjects of male violence; when we are not given equal pay for equal work; when we are passive poster-girls in the news; when we are token pets in film; when we are so objectified that our identities are subject to an all round reductio ad corpora.

You might not care about those things but I do.

MoreCrackThanHarlem · 30/10/2014 19:13

Great relationship with dd

MoreCrackThanHarlem · 30/10/2014 19:12

For example, my daughter's dance teacher, who is a fabulous, caring man and has a great relationship with D's mentioned the other day that he would love a daughter to 'sparklify'.
Just his one, thoughtless comment has now tainted my view of him when he is otherwise a fantastic person. It is hard work.

MrsWolowitz · 30/10/2014 19:11

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