i need a break from this feminism stuff

I couldn't give a shiney shite about sports. How does average muscle mass and lean body mass equate to unequal pay and power?

Ah, Oliver Reed and Alan Bates. Now they were men's men, know what I mean?

My DH is a personal trainer and he has both male and female clients and he could tell you easily that although some women can defeat men at sports as a general rule they don't.

I do not bake, Zombie, I have staff for that. I deal with the kids and work. That's about as far as my womanly duties reach.

It is true that all the CEOs and world leaders do need to be body builders. I's a well known fact that higher muscle mass involves being paid more and owning pretty much all the property in the world.

LOL!

Oh Olivia, where have you been all my life?

You're just what we needed. An unreconstructed old fashioned woman. Do you bake? Please say you bake, and that yo man loves yo cupcakes.

This is CLASS!

It's like.... anti feminist bingo.

Oh, and before you turn your perfectly arched eyebrows on me, I love my very manly man. Built like a brick privy, rugby player, ex forces and a feminist. A feminist who feels kind of sorry for your poor manipulated husband.

Olivia - what are you on about? I did a feminism class in my first year at college and they showed us a video from the 70s where women body builders were beating men body builders at all sorts of things. They had them racing, swimming, climbing ropes, doing mental arithmetic. That was from the 70s. You'd have thought people would've learnt about it by now, but no, you insist on staying ignorant of the facts. Try reading about body builders gender experiments before you come here spouting that claptrap.

Hmm interesting Crispy. Not expecting equality has to be combined with still believing you're worth it, though. So it won't surprise or make you furious but you still know what's right/want do something about it.

I used girly-girl as a derogatory term, which is what you perceived it as as well, wolowitz. And yeah, I like strong guys. Women can body build all they want, they still won't beat the male body builder. They can try, but they just don't have the physical capacity. But we can beat them in other ways, so why focus so hard on being the same in every way when it ain't gonna happen?

I get the impression you're not a fan of men from your comments, wolowitz.

I was thinking today, it might be easier to think of the world as a place where women are just meant to be the second sex (not by fate or by biology or anything, just in our society).
I mean, we grow up hearing that it isn't like that, but in reality, it pretty much is. Maybe if I just re-jigged my mind, and accepted that, I wouldn't get upset by things so much. Does that make sense at all? Don't expect equality, you can't be disappointed when you don't get it.
Then I wonder what to tell my children about the world and I feel sad again.

I have somehow missed Scott and Bailey this time around

An obsession with walking zombies has overtaken by Telly watching

I am watching everything else on TV through the lens of Goggle Box, and find those two pissed up poshos highly entertaining

I have really enjoyed Scott and Bailey too. Written and directed by women. Strong female leads. Sad it has finished and that Jill has retired.

Lol, Yellow!

Jeez why have I not been on this board more often? I love a well conceived comedy character bouncing along before comedy segues to pathos and tragedy.

And in episode 2, Olivia meets a feminist 'stay at home mom' and finds her co-worker is paid 20% more because he matches the boards genital expectations.

ou guys are being ridiculous. Okay, I agree with equality, there are many women more intelligent than men However, it is not true that a man is just "a human with a penis". Men naturally have a higher muscle mass than women and a lower fat %. Men also have higher upper body strength. There are differences between genders. I have no problem with equality in occupations - i think everything should be open to women from stylists to SEALS. My point is, men are different from women and that's what I like.

If I wanted another woman, I'd be a lesbian. I have nothing against it, I just am not intersted.

In other news, I've really enjoyed Scott and Bailey...anyone else?

Is it feeding time?

Advance search is your friend

Feeling better, OP ?

Yes it's overwhelming.
It's important to take breaks now and then OP. Got to recharge those batteries

For sure.

A person with male sex organs and xy chromosome.
Now please, how do you define 'being a man'? You clearly said you want your dh to be one, how does he live up to your expectation of this?