can we talk about "gamergate"

I thought it was him, that kind of oddness tends to stick in the mind

Saskia that is indeed him! Douche V!

No the threats aren't going both ways. The only people getting threatened with rape/death/rape and death are pesky women who point out what the GGers are doing.

Yes, it's linked to 4chan and 8chan, and there was a really interesting blog post linked on here I think about how there's a hard core of sociopathic men stirring the pot, while their disaffected followers make the threats etc. it's very similar in tactics and set up to the MRM.

AsAMan - I'm not sure about the influence of games. Porn, yes, I think a lot of porn could warp someone's opinion of women generally.

Saying that - threatening to rape and assault women who disagree with you isn't new. About ten years ago one of my writers was stalked across the internet by a white supremacist because he so strongly disagreed with something she wrote. Sadly, after several weeks of threats and harassment she quit.

i guess misogynists can just reach more women now

But there are enough idiots on both sides that we now see rape threats, death threats, release of personal information, and a whole host of other unpleasantness flying both ways.

Explain who the idiots on both sides are. Are you saying that those women somehow are responsible for being attacked? Has people like Anita and Zoe sent rape/death threats to misogynists?

Here's a post about the reluctant bum wiper wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/10/02/why-pickup-guru-roosh-v-resents-women-for-forcing-him-to-clip-his-fingernails-and-wipe-his-own-ass/

Lemon I'm not sure

MEOD I haven't seen threats going both ways, despite what some GGers claim.

And, FWI I've been following this since it first started. Also, it's not a case of gamers on one side and feminists on the other; plenty of people fall into both camps.

Maybe off topic and maybe a stupid question. But the rape and death threats, women have always dealt with fear of stalkers or crazy people..but there seems to be a new breed of scary misogynist. And as mentioned by a PP they're the lonely pasty saddo type. DO you think they've become so vile because these men are actually on the computer for hours a day? I mean if you spend hours "killing" women for entertainment what a rape threat over twitter?

I'd also not hesitate that their hours online in their parent's basement are also frequently spent watching hideous amounts of porn. This won't help either.

Haha!!! Really? I haven't heard that. It would not surprise me though.

Who else did he think was going to do it?!

Something that hasn't been said on these threads about gamng and sexism so far: my dh says that these are not grassroots movements as has been suggested implied (by the gamergate tag people I mean), but they are actually a deliberately orchestrated and planned campaign initiated by a small group of people. This arstechnica article links it to 4chan. arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/new-chat-logs-show-how-4chan-users-pushed-gamergate-into-the-national-spotlight/
He's mentioned these people before in other areas as people who - I don't get this - just like to insult people over the internet, for 'fun'. Their modus operandi is to set up multiple fake accounts and make it look like a general grassroots opinion when in fact its a concerted attack.

There was a thread ages ago on here about some fancy ribbon layer cake recipe - I think - that had for some reason attracted really vitriolic comments, and that was linked to these 4chan people too.

I don't understand the mentality, I really don't. There are some sick people out there. But hopefully not quite so many as gamergate suggests.

Isn't that website run by a man who complained about having to wipe his own bum?

This website is generally pathetic, but if you fancy some Friday afternoon indignant rage, then I suggest you use this link:

www.returnofkings.com/46346/gamergate-why-feminists-want-to-destroy-gaming

(DISCLAIMER: Return of Kings are cunts. That is all.)

Not for the gamers who haven't threatened anyone either.

But there are enough idiots on both sides that we now see rape threats, death threats, release of personal information, and a whole host of other unpleasantness flying both ways. Feminism on one side wondering "why are all these gamers suddenly misogynising all over the place?", and on the other games wondering "Why does feminism have such a problem with the fight against journalistic corruption?".

It does seem to be getting more common. I know it has happened in the past (anyone remember Kathy Sierra?), but over the last couple of years it seems that almost every month or so another woman is being threatened for daring to have an opinion.

Yy MEOD.

Threatening to rape Chloe because of Judy's comments was very low, IMO. Did Ken "rape rape" Clarke and George "bad sexual etiquette" Galloway have their daughters threatened with rape?

It's an utter embarrassment for all involved.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/15/anita-sarkeesian-feminist-games-critic-cancels-talk

It's mind boggling what that woman has been through.

"Wtf are they angry about"

They're angry because at one time gaming had a reputation for being something that only appealed to pasty, friendless teenage boys. But it turns out that's not actually true, and lots of people like games, including women. Apparently this is a bad thing. Especially the women. It seems that the thought of women having any part in gaming drives GGers into the kind of rage that most (normal) people would reserve for someone who deliberately ran over their dog, and then reversed.

So, basically, it's sad, entitled saddoes screaming 'what about the menz' with added rape threats.

Of course, the attempt to silence them then makes you think a third time that actually there's even more need for women's voices to be heard too!

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I hope you get to start your project! But yes, it's best to be careful with personal info.

I've been thinking about this too. I'd like to do a feminism project online (not gaming related) and given the abusive online delivered to people like Zoe, Anita and Caroline Criado-Perez do make you think twice.

Of course, the attempt to silence them then makes you think a third time that actually there's even more need for women's voices to be heard too!

I don't know when I'll have time to do my idea (another project I had the idea to do is still not off the ground and I had the idea 12 years or so ago!) - and it's not necessarily the huge kind that attracts MRA - but I'd consider doing it entirely anonymously.