Female body hair / husband- help?

I am madly in love with the idea of using our body hair for nests! But then wouldn't we be furrier than men?

Given your first post accused people of snarling, Fakebook...

People can question any views, we can question your bullshit science views too

As it happens I do like the smooth feeling on my legs and my DH shaves parts of his body that he likes to remain smooth. No one has conditioned us into thinking this.

50 years ago very few women took off all their pubic hair. Now many women do. It isn't healthy, so unlikely to be a natural instinct and seems to have coincidentally happened at the same time as porn deciding it improved the view.

Or do you think humans have suddenly evolved a new need to take off fanjo hair too?

Good. I'm glad you all agree I'm right. That ends the discussion then doesn't it? Have a good evening. God forbid anyone question your views. .

Unfortunately the nest is of no use to me because it is formed in the bath plug hole, but other than that I think fakbook's explanation makes perfect sense

I gotta say, the nest argument is a new one, though.

Ok fakebook. Extensive research in this area is wrong and you're right.

How many men have long hair vs women? 2-3 centuries ago, aristocratic men had long hair. Now they don't. Is that evolution or societal change, I wonder?

I don't care if you shave your legs; I do too. But to say the decision is taken in isolation from the society you live in is simply incorrect.

How can you blame society for a woman wanting to remove her bodily hair? In the animal kingdom, often the females pluck their own hair/feathers to make nests. How do you know that the real reason for a woman wanting to remove body hair isn't because it's an animal instinct? Maybe subconciously it's done to make themselves look different from men as a form of attraction?

As it happens I do like the smooth feeling on my legs and my DH shaves parts of his body that he likes to remain smooth. No one has conditioned us into thinking this.

All behaviour beyond basic survival is conditioned. There is no reason whatsoever for women to feel embarrassed by their body hair. The only reason they do feel embarrassed, liks the OP, is because society tells them hairy legs ard unacceptable ln women (but fine on men). If it was a genuine choice lots of women would have hairy legs. As it is, very few women don't shave.

Well, no, because I like the feeling of smoothness as in putting on a pair of trousers onto freshly shaved legs - nothing to do with my husband being smooth!

If women liked the feeling of smoothness there would be more pressure on men to be smooth rather than women to be smooth. Think about it

Also do you really sit around rubbing your legs for the smoothness? are you put off by your partner's body hair and lack of smoothness?

i'm sure some men and women do

but given that a MASSIVE proportion of women do shave their body hair compared to a minutely small proportion of men, it's not really likely to be the only reason why is it? otherwise there would be equal proportions of men and women doing it

Yes but how many more women than men shave? Do you really believe just as many men shave their legs as women?

I don't get what? That I don't understand why if a woman chooses to shave, it's assumed by "feminists" that she has been conditioned by society to do it.

Believe it or not, some women and men shave because they like the feeling of smooth skin.

Threads about body hair always go the same way.

The only people snarling are the ones who want to shave. Someone comes and tells us that those of us who understand that shaving body hair isn't a free choice don't understand that they are making a free choice. Just waiting for someone to tell the OP that they are dirty, smelly and don't care about themselves and we'll have a full house.

Oh, and there isn't anything like the same pressure for men to shave their faces, the idea that DH is some kind of anti-society hair wearer is still making him chuckle a day on. I don't remember sidebar of shame articles where men's stubbly faces are circled and an article about whether he's letting himself go written. I do remember ones about Julia Robert's armpit hair though. Why the discrepancy?

Feminists actually couldn't give a shit if you shave or not, as long as you recognise that if you do, it's not an entirely free choice under Patriarchy.

I think some people deliberately mis read threads tunip

Why do some people not understand the difference between 'this is a feminist issue' and 'if you do this you're not a feminist'?
No-one on this thread has said shaving means you're not a feminist but several people seem to be under the impression they have

I am having v similar thoughts since having DS, and I have stopped shaving because I want him to grow up thinking body hair is normal.

I really struggle with the whole thought process on this because society tells me it is unattractive, therefore it makes me feel self-concious - then that annoys me because I think why should anyone be made to feel uncomfortable about something their body does naturally.

It is a feminist issue and it is not the same as male facial hair, there is no actual expectation of it, men are allowed to choose, women are made to feel bad for making the same kind of choices.

My DP doesn't like it either really, but respects my choice and sees my point, he even said that he understood why his "preference" for hairlessness is also probably due to conditioning by society. It has not affected our sex life btw!

Of course the other point is that the OP would feel a lot more comfortable with her choice if her DH was 100% supportive of it.

On balance, I would say give it a try for another few months and see how you both feel about it then.

he doesn't feel comfortable because people find it odd out in public.

Just read your last post. Sorry so you don't even like being hairy, yet you're forcing yourself to like it to prove a point.. Isn't that just as bad as shaving to fit in?!

BlueberryWafer no

She doesn't feel comfortable because find it odd out in public. SO deciding she shouldn't have to do something unnecessary to make other people happy is not the same as doing something unnecessary to fit in.

fakebook you really don't get it.

Obviously you can still choose whatever you like, but not shaving wont make you any more feminist.

It is making a feminist choice to make sure her children see a woman with hair as normal

youre not comfortable being hairy and your husband finds it unattractive and has admitted this to you.

Obviously you can still choose whatever you like, but not shaving wont make you any more feminist.