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John Grisham's twisted views

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Stressing · 16/10/2014 12:36

So fuming about John Grisham airing his twisted views on child porn. /www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/books/10624453/John-Grisham-child-porn-argument-wrong

Especially this part, whilst referring to his friend who had the book thrown at him apparently: "So he went there (to the site), downloaded some stuff - it was 16 year old girls who looked 30.

"He shouldn't have done it. It was stupid, but it wasn't 10-year-old boys."

WTF? So it's okay apparently to get pissed and wank off over images of young teenagers who may or may not be around the age of consent, so long as they look 30. And, more importantly, it's okay to do this so long as they are not male.

The fact that we live in a world where there is any kind of grey area surrounding child porn depresses me. How the male need to be sexually gratified is SOOOO important that it presides over the innocence and well-being of a child makes me utterly sick to my stomach.

JG has the arrogance and self importance to put the US justice system on trial due to his version of what he thinks is acceptable and not acceptable - of who is worthy of law enforcement based on age and gender.

You can bet your life that his mate didn't just view a site depicting consenting age females. He went there because he was drawn to the borderline element of the site, obviously, and probably went elsewhere - which is why he had the FBI knocking on his door.

But, according to JG, the fact he wasn't looking at boys means he wasn't really doing anything wrong.

It incenses me.

OP posts:
Sabrinnnnnnnna · 16/10/2014 22:02

Viewing images of child abuse is a crime, brighton. Weren't you aware? Or do you just not think it should be?

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 22:02

There are a lot of words used in general vocab that are not accurate - people still know what it means.

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 22:01

Scallops - they should be where ever they like unless they are convicted of committing a crime.

scallopsrgreat · 16/10/2014 22:00

More people may use that phrase. Doesn't make it accurate.

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 22:00

Scallops - I meant websites as opposed to website.

scallopsrgreat · 16/10/2014 21:59

And where should people with paedophilic tendencies be...? Go on you can do it!

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 21:59

Hi Glen - I would bet my house that more people use the phrase 'child porn' in day to day parlance over 'images of child abuse' - not just perverts as you say.

scallopsrgreat · 16/10/2014 21:58

It is outrage over minimising the damage that viewing child sexual abuse does.

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 21:57

Why would they view it? Because they have peadophilic tendencies?

glenthebattleostrich · 16/10/2014 21:57

Wow Brighton, you really are hard of thinking. They are images of children being abused. The term child porn is used by perverts to justify and legitimise the I images.

JG is a disgrace but typical of the patriarchal bullshit we are subjected to daily.

scallopsrgreat · 16/10/2014 21:56

No one gets put in jail for viewing one website Brighton. I can't believe you think that. You are minimising. As usual.

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 21:55

This is outrage over John Grishams views on sentencing of people who have accessed illegal images - not outrage over child abuse per se.

scallopsrgreat · 16/10/2014 21:54

You don't think outrage is deserved against child sexual abuse? Wow! Did you used to work in Rotherham?

Why would someone want to view it?

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 21:53

what will they have done scallops?

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 16/10/2014 21:53

I don't have a season pass for minimising crimes against children, and the defending the men who prop up the demand for them by viewing such images.

scallopsrgreat · 16/10/2014 21:52

They won't have just accessed a website. And if you think that then you really aren't understanding the problem.

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 21:51

I just don't have a season pass for the outrage bus! As a rule I think fewer people in jail is a good thing.

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 16/10/2014 21:51

Oh, and they all minimise their crimes, they all say they would never touch a 'real' child, while conveniently ignoring the fact that real children were in fact harmed producing the images that they are getting off on.

paddlenorapaddle · 16/10/2014 21:50

I for 1 will never ever read one of his books again

It won't make a difference but its a start what an absolute arsehole

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 16/10/2014 21:49

I actually agree with JG to an extent.

Quelle surprise.

BrightonB83 · 16/10/2014 21:48

I didn't use that phrase, I just meant that everyone knows what is meant by child porn - so it does exist! There are lots of things where the public use language that isn't strictly accurate.

I actually agree with JG to an extent. Jail is not the right sentence for anyone who has just accessed a website, be it child porn, terrorism or what ever.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 16/10/2014 21:47

Ah, sorry, feminist quite like to name the actual problem. What those images which you see as being not so problematic, are in fact pictures of children being abused. Therefore we tend to call them what they are, images of child abuse.

You know, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it doesn't make it a penguin so that people's feelz aren't hurt.

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 16/10/2014 21:45

No there is no such thing as child porn. Children are under the age of consent, and so what is being filmed/photographed is not pornography, it is child abuse.

You're really on a roll today, aren't you brighton?

scallopsrgreat · 16/10/2014 21:45

'technical'. Yeah that's what we are objecting to Hmm

Still being the MRA 'the voice of reason' then Brighton.

YonicScrewdriver · 16/10/2014 21:44

Sigh.

What's "technical" about "images of child abuse"?

And what is the answer?

42?