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Women wearing burqas segregated in aus parliiament building

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diggerdigsdogs · 02/10/2014 13:23

All people wearing a face covering, I.e. women wearing burqas, into australian parliament will be segregated and seated in an elevated, glassed enclosure/area. Apparently it's a similar area to where schools often sit.

This is because wearers cannot be visually identified even though they will still be security searched and checked. The original idea was that burqas would be banned outright from parliament.

Racial tensions are very high in Australia at the moment as back ground. A young man was shot by police after he stabbed two officers. Dawn raids by police on terror suspects. Graffiti, threats, racial abuse - on both sides from what I understand in the papers.

I'm totally on the fence on this one. On the one side I think people should have to show their faces in certain situations, especially where security is a concern, on the other I don't like the idea of excluding women from any sphere, especially a political one. I support women to dress as they please but I worry that he burqa is a tool of oppression for some(many?) women who must wear it regardless of their choice. Finally I think that for all of Australia's sexism and general conservative values it is a very multi cultural nation and I do not think this decision recognises the make up of modern Australia. From where I live in south Sydney it really does feel like a nation of immigrants.

I'd love to hear some more feminist thoughts on all of this :)

guardian aus article here

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King1982 · 02/10/2014 15:50

No, but religion is deliberately misogynistic. If you want to give religion special treatment to breach security regulations, then you indirectly support it's misogynistic practice of face covering.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 02/10/2014 15:41

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

King1982 · 02/10/2014 15:37

I doubt they would wear it if the religion had never been invented. I don't know any women that has decided to wear a face covering that doesn't attribute it to religion. No one I know does it off their own thinking. Maybe a balaclava for warmth but not indoors or fancy dress, aside.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 02/10/2014 15:16

So.... women who choose to wear it of their own free will should be made to sit behind glass and that's ok with you? And yes, it is part of their religion and yes, believe it or not, some women choose to wear it, because they want to, not because someone has told them to.

King1982 · 02/10/2014 15:13

It's the religion's fault. I have no problem with Aus government/security doing this.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 02/10/2014 15:05

Not from the press conference taken by the Greens.... all very odd. But then again, Abbot is..... difficult???? when it comes to his views about women.

MyEmpireOfDirt · 02/10/2014 14:57

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PuffinsAreFicticious · 02/10/2014 14:12

Australia IS a nation of immigrants ffs!

My understanding is that the women wearing the burqa or other face covering would have removed it before entering the Oz parliament anyway, as part of the security checks, in the same way as they do in airports.

Nojacketrequired · 02/10/2014 14:01

Are you of Aboriginal ethnic origin? If not, I like the irony of your post, topped off by From where I live in south Sydney it really does feel like a nation of immigrants. Grin

diggerdigsdogs · 02/10/2014 13:53

They are just announcing the pm is asking the committee in charge to re think this and not segregate.

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