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Twitter troll jailed for rape threats...

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GatoradeMeBitch · 29/09/2014 16:06

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/29/stella-creasy-peter-nunn_n_5899132.html?ncid=webmail1

Peter Nunn sent tweets threatening rape and drowning to Stella Creasy and Caroline Criado-Perez, during the debate about putting a woman on one of the bank notes. He described them as witches.

He has a three year old daughter and a partner.

Where does a man find such hatred and venom for women as a gender when he has a female family, and presumably loves his child? I just can't understand it.

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Zazzles007 · 30/09/2014 11:28

That pic of Nunn in the link gives me the absolute creeps. There is something menacing and, and....weird about him. I know its only a moment in time, but geeze that pic tells the proverbial thousand words. No wonder Stella Creasy and Caroline Criado-Perez felt so threatened. I am glad that he got some time in the slammer, and that the judge felt strongly enough to make sure that the sentence was effective immediately.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 30/09/2014 11:13

I think rather than send a message about not attacking women online, it is sending a message that the internet is not some free-for-all space where you can say whatever you want without any consequences. So while this particular case is a feminist issue, it's also hopefully showing people that if you would get in trouble for screaming those words at someone in the street, you shouldn't scream them over twitter either.

WhyTheCagedBirdTweets · 30/09/2014 10:58

This is such a worrying trend. Whilst the behaviour itself is nothing new, per se, the internet has opened up an unprecedented ability to attack others and I wonder what teenagers make of it; do they now consider it 'normal' behaviour to attack people online in the most violent (and vile) ways possible? I think there is a very clear message about misogyny here, but we shouldn't lose track of the fact that this isn't just bigoted men vs public women, but endemic outside of that single instance too.

BarbarianMum · 30/09/2014 10:36

YY IME that sort of twisted disdain/hatred/fear is never far under the surface. Men like this can be quite genial and even protective of women provided they know their place/don't threaten their very large and fragile egos. Then, watch out.

Personally I hope his partner takes her daughter and runs for the hills.

PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 10:08

yy, suspect it's our old friend consonantvowel-consonantvowel...

i was thinking of the lurkers tbh. i don't think the comment, while worth exploring in principle, was intended as anything but a derail

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 30/09/2014 09:37

Going by kujo's other posts on FWR and his formulaic username, I would guess he is our regular previously banned user, is an internet troll himself, and thus not a million miles from the man who has been jailed.

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 09:29

And it is a fairly "new" crime that many don't think IS a crime (including the criminals!) so I am glad for initial results as they will hopefully blaze a trail for future, less high profile/ideal victims.

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 09:26

I don't think kujo meant it to be taken at face value though: there was no "whilst this was a good result, if the victims..." Type intro.

PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 09:01

no, you make a fair point. perhaps it would be better to have taken this comment at face value rather than allow the trolling on other parts of the board to influence responses here

TunipTheUnconquerable · 30/09/2014 08:59

Ah ok thanks, I hadn't seen Kujo's other posts - sorry!

PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 08:53

i do agree tunip. sorry, kujo was being an arse elsewhere and it filtered through to the comment on this thread

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 08:53

Tunip, agree that "ideal victim" cases can be easier to bring to justice but not sure if you've seen kujo's other posts on FWR?

TunipTheUnconquerable · 30/09/2014 08:41

Kujo was making a perfectly reasonable point IMO.

Yes it's a start but it's likely more than coincidence that the conviction has been secured in a case where the victims were young, blonde, white, m-c, etc. I think a lot of men in positions of influence (ie white m-c men....) are more likely to want to spring to the defence of women who bring out their knight-in-shining-armour side by happening to match the picture of the ideal victim.
Wanting to discuss this doesn't detract from the fact that it's a Good Thing he was convicted.

pegfin · 30/09/2014 00:46

That may have been my predictionWink but I want to hear what kujo has to say as I am really curious as to the point kujo was trying to make.

kujo??

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 00:33

That would be the fault of the feminists, pegfin. Obviously.

pegfin · 30/09/2014 00:12

kujo if he had made those remarks to a working class black woman and he had not been arrested, who exactly do you think would have been to blame for that omission?

StillFrigginRexManningDay · 30/09/2014 00:12

kujo rape is thrown around as a so called joke by so many pathetic excuses for men and you can't see the victory in one conviction? One more asshole named and shamed, one more step towards the real criminalisation of the war on women.

His wife is not a cool cool wife, she appears to be blinkered.

pegfin · 30/09/2014 00:09

There is no evidence he does having a loving relationship with either his wife or daughter. I very much doubt his online personality is too far removed from his at home one.

He probably does not have the depth of empathy required to work out that his attitudes will have an effect on the women around him. I am sure his remorse was confined to sadness at his own plight brought about by those evil witches.

Trying to dress it up as some kind of sophisticated intellectual exercise instead of just admitting it was incredibly stupid and deeply unpleasant. It's ok he can break the law because he is proper clever.

PetulaGordino · 30/09/2014 00:08

I wondered about that. Talking about innocent until proven guilty, here is someone proven guilty but apparently it's not good enough

YonicScrewdriver · 30/09/2014 00:02

Kujo, aren't you celebrating the fact that someone has been found guilty of a crime in a court of law and has been sentenced accordingly?

PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 23:40

We have literally never discussed the positions of women of different races and classes in the context of feminism. Literally never. Thanks god someone came to put us right

DuelingFanjo · 29/09/2014 23:38

Perhaps if they were women and black and working class it might have meant the threats were even more likely to be minimised, who knows? Isn't it great though that for whatever reason these kinds of threats ARE being taken seriously by some people and that can only be good for All cases of sexual harassment and stalking by men against women.

kujopiya · 29/09/2014 23:35

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PetulaGordino · 29/09/2014 23:27

Yup everyone who has posted on here thinks that all problems for all women have even solved by this single conviction

kujopiya · 29/09/2014 23:04

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